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submitted 9 months ago by snek@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

With fighting raging around Khan Younis and in the north of Gaza, a video has emerged on social media showing dozens of Palestinian men detained by Israel.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh hey, sure. I can tell you exactly how we did it in Iraq. On both counts. So when you first make contact with the person you're going to detain you have them stop at a distance. Then someone with a thermal sight looks at them through the sight and it's readily apparent if they have a bomb vest on. I mean there's no chance of not seeing it. But it could be something like a money belt or an armor vest. So you have them disrobe if, and only if, the guy with the thermal sight says it needs to happen. At that point if it is a vest and they're cooperative it's an EOD problem. If they aren't cooperative, well that sucks.

The key thing here though, is in the 99.9 percent of cases it's not a vest, or there was no positive indication, they keep their fucking clothes. Just like your local PD is capable of searching you without stripping you, so is your friendly neighborhood infantry platoon.

Now about bombing. Before you can drop any ordinance you have to first answer a few questions.

*Is this structure currently being used by the enemy?

*Are there signs of civilians, or is it somewhere we would reasonably expect them to be? (Such as an apartment)

*Is this structure on the protected targets list? (Oh yeah we spent time creating lists of things not to shoot at if possible.)

If the answer is yes to the first and any of the others we then also need to figure out if it rises to a level where bombing it is appropriate. For example, bombing an apartment building because there's 12 guys there is a war crime. But if there's a Battalion dug in there, then yeah it's legitimate.

What Israel has been doing is scanning satellite and drone footage for anything that looks like it could be the entrance hatch to a tunnel and bombing that. No matter where it is and with no evidence as to whether it's a maintenance tunnel or the yet to be found super secret bad guy hang out. If I did that in Iraq I'd have been brought up on charges. They tried to bring me up on charges for firing a warning shot. So please tell me more about how, this is just the way it's done. I'll be over here shining my CIB, waiting for the answer.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm not the person you asked this question to but wanted to answer anyway:

*Is this structure currently being used by the enemy?

No. It was a refugee camp.

*Are there signs of civilians, or is it somewhere we would reasonably expect them to be? (Such as an apartment)

Yes

*Is this structure on the protected targets list? (Oh yeah we spent time creating lists of things not to shoot at if possible.)

Not sure about the list Israel has, but yeah refugee camps should be in there.


Israel has practically assassinated so many doctors in Gaza by killing them all when they return home to check on their families. 16 of them died in their own home, not in service, with a large portion of their families. Israel knows what it's doing. It knows where targets and non-targets are... it's just that they decided that medical professionals and 4 year old girls are targets.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

For the record I lost all confidence in the IDF to discern targets correctly when Reuters reported the IDF fired on a press group who were just standing around in the open.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Here are some Lebanon "incidents"

There is another video of a crew of journalists who had their vehicle bombed twice by the IDF. Luckily, they managed to escape before being killed. I couldn't find this video but if someone has it please do share.

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