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[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I was speaking more about this, but that's an interesting read as well.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The link you shared shows UN resolution 502 which states:

  • immediate cessation of hostilities
  • withdrawal of argentine forces
  • start diplomatic means to settle the matter.

Nowhere does it mention telling British to return the island to Argentina.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The actual verbage of the third bullet item you listed is as follows ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_502

  1. Calls on the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to seek a diplomatic solution to their differences and to respect fully the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

I'm assuming thats meant to say negatiate the return of the islands, because there sure as shit nothing else that would be discussed to resolve the diplomatic solution, unless they went for some funky kind of co-op/timeshare solution. They can't state the return blatently because the UK would not agree to that in an initial resolution.

https://press.un.org/en/2021/gacol3347.doc.htm

In the ensuing debate, delegates, many from the Latin American and Caribbean region, supported Argentina’s claim of sovereignty and urged Buenos Aires and London to begin negotiations as soon as possible on the basis of the relevant United Nations resolutions. Several cautioned against unilateral actions, expressing concern about the United Kingdom’s military presence in the Falklands (Malvinas), and by extension, the South Atlantic.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The actual verbiage never said that United Kingdom had to return the island to Argentina.

The purposes and principles of UN which is described in chapter 1, says the member nations will not use force to threaten territorial integrity or political independence of any state.

It also states that nations should respect principles of equal rights and self determination.

Argentina is guilty of both of using force to threaten political independence of island and disrespect of self determination of the islanders

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

The actual verbiage never said that United Kingdom had to return the island to Argentina.

It wouldn't, or else it would never get passef by vote because the UK would vote against it. You need to understand how diplomats state things publicly, especially when they have to vote on them.

When the terminology of 'negotiation' is used, that's what is meant, because there's no other issue to negotiate about, than the return of the islands.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

If British had to return the island, it would be to the penguins and walrus. Argentina doesn't have any rights on it.

Before you share another wiki article which you have been spamming the thread with and which refutes your claim. Show a specific line where it is said that Spanish gave the rights to the island to Argentina.

If Spain didn't transfer it then it goes to the initial finders of the island either France or British. Argentina is acting like China or Russia, without having the might. Crying after losing a foolish war they themselves had started.

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