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[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 1 points 5 months ago

What do you mean with proprietary? 'Cause atproto is foss, but yeah atm Bluesky kinda controls it (even if in the interview she said they would like to move it to a third party regulator in the future)

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 4 points 5 months ago

Well, if what she says in the interview is the truth they don't plan to make money with ads, but with a cut on their marketplace of algorithms &co + with custom handles (aka custom domains)

So yeah, maybe it will not end up like Twitter

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 1 points 5 months ago

Agree. The episode partially answers some of those questions (of course with a biased answer, since it's given by their CEO), but I guess that for most of them we'll just have to wait and see

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 2 points 5 months ago

From what she said, ActivityPub could have adapted to what they wanted, but probably don't want to. On Bluesky you kinda loose the community feel of your instance that you have and that many people (me included) like.

I elaborated more on the "problems" she listed in another comment here if you want to read more without listening the episode

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 19 points 5 months ago

She was saying that on Mastodon (that was the main activitypub platform she was comparing to) the choice of the instance can heavily influence your experience. If I don't remember wrong her main points were:

  • There's a local timeline and a federated timeline, and even in the federated timeline you see your instance posts and the posts of the instances yours have federated with, not all posts
  • A global search is not always the easiest thing to do, and previous attempts of project that would have facilitated it didn't received much appreciation from the community
  • If your instance admin do choices you don't agree with (for example blocking another instance) the only way to interact with that other instance is to move yourself
  • Moving from an instance to another means loosing your posts and replies, that would stay on the original instance

She was not saying that this approach is wrong, in fact many people on Mastodon like this more community-focused and less-global approach, just that it isn't what they wanted for Bluesky

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 9 points 5 months ago

And yet, here we are with another conversation about something in the wrong place.

Well, this is is a place to talk about fediverse and ActivityPub, and mine wanted to be the starting point for a discussion about the two protocols and how they compare with each other, if it was actually worth it to create a new protocol or not etc.

I was not pretending that Bluesky is better than the Fediverse, it's just different and I'm convinced that discussing about how others do stuff can benefit the Fediverse too.

BlueSky and their illusion of federation, what's to talk about? Anyone can host a server, but all posts need to be indexed by the server of which they're in charge of otherwise they don't appear in anyone's timelines?

As for this, it was my main perplexity after I listened the podcast since they didn't really entered into the details of how the "multiple servers, one timeline" work. Do you by chance have any resource/link I could read to learn more about that and clarify my doubts?

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 12 points 5 months ago

That's almost exactly what I was thinking before listening to the podcast.

But there she explained how ActivityPub was missing some of the feature they wanted because of its instance-centric approach and how trying to change that would have been hard (given how sceptical towards changes and everything corporate-related the fediverse community can be), and so they opted for a new protocol since the goals of the two project were with different aims.

Still not 100% convinced tbh, but I can't deny she has a point...

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 2 points 5 months ago

Even if the corporate is a public benefit corporation with open source foss code both for server and client?

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 18 points 5 months ago

It can be a bit overkill for your use case if you only need to stream the USB media on your tv, but take a look at Jellyfin, it's a program you can install on any PC and as long as this is up and running on the same network you can access your media on that PC (in your case with the USB plugged in) from any other device (TV, other PCs, Tablets, smartphones)

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 6 points 6 months ago

Still haven't looked into podman properly, but docker is much easier to learn because as you said there's a lot more material available online. I'd say start with Docker, and if in the future you will find out podman better fits your needs you can always switch (they should not be that different)

[-] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 17 points 6 months ago

Matrix is a communication protocol, such as IMAP+SMTP communication protocols that are behind emails. This means that the "communication stack" when you use Matrix, as well as when you use emails, can be summarized in 3 parts:

  • the client (the app you use to chat, such as Apple Mail or Outlook for emails, Element or FluffyChat for Matrix)
  • the provider (who is offering you the service, such as gmail.com or yahoo.com for email, matrix.org or chat.mozilla.com for Matrix)
  • the server (the app that your provider runs to let you chat, for emails all most famous providers have their own proprietary servers, for Matrix the two main options for server are Synapse or Dendrite)

I haven't read the article properly yet, but from what I've understand for now it seems Commune.sh aims to build a new client for Matrix that reproduces the layout and features of Discord, while at the same time being based on an open communication protocol and therefore having all its related benefits.

Seems pretty promising, I'm gonna keep an eye of it 👀

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