So do we have demand for cheap cars or not then? I thought you were arguing the demand wasnt there.

The demand isn't there for small cheap vehicles, my point was Americans have no problems buying cheap "foreign" cars.

Besides you confirmed by opinion that its common to not trust “piles of cheap garbage”.

My opnion of does not reflect the opnion of the American population, kias and Hyundai sell well here.

In my opinion the ford focus was just as much a pile of cheap garbage as the rest but people think Ford is more reliable or at least wouldnt try to kill its own citizens.

Our opinions on vehicles are not the issue. Americans don't want cheap domestic small cars which is why they don't sell well here. Americans don't want cheap small foreign cars not because they don't trust cheap foreign vehicles but because they don't want cheap small cars.

The Mazda 3s in the 2010s were cheap and were competitive with the focus sales wise. Kia has sold tons of vehicles and they are piles of cheap garbage yet Americans keep buying their larger vehicles.

Renault could import the Dacia Sandero and have its msrp be $1000 less than the versa after terrifs. With that kind of price advantage you'd think they would but there's been no effort on their part. The US market for cheap vehicles is too small.

Mitsubishi sold 87,000 vehicles in 2023 only 13,000 were mirages. Kia sold 782,000, 27,000 were rios. Nissian sold 235,000, 4,000 were versas.

In Europe the dacia sold 493,000, 200,000 were sanderos. Those are the numbers needed to make cheap compact cars.

They could build and sell a basic car (combustion) for under $15k if enough people bought them but most people don't want stripped down compact cars. There's just not enough of a market to justify cheap cars in the US.

2×F16=1E2C

I hope these will suffice.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=china+north+korea+slave+labor&t=fpas&ia=web

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=China+cleansing+uyghurs&t=fpas&ia=web

On what?

The US would get involved, two advisaries attacking each other would give the US opportunities to leverage influence and destabilize. The dangerous thing is that they have nukes so there is a delicate balance when trying to destabilize while ensuring advance weaponry does not fall into the wrong hands.

China imports slave labor from N Korea, to make up supply shortages from over cleansing Uyghurs. Russia is using their slave population as cannon fodder right now, so I can't see them having many people left to trade.

Screwing with 100s of people and then being surprised when one lashed out is impressively naive.

Are you suggesting two things can’t be true?

Nope, it's why I used words like also and equally inappropriate.

Stopping everyone from having a few drinks so that the customers you shit on the most will obediently swallow all the shit you can shove down their throats is fixing a symptom not the cause.