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[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Firing rockets at another country on a regular basis is also an act of war

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

If you are talking about the water situation in Gaza prior to October 7th, I want to remind you that Gaza also borders with Egypt and any humanitarian crisis that is present in Gaza could be easily aided by Egypt, opening its borders and providing them all the water they need. They are their "brothers" after all.

In my opinion, Israel has the right to refuse aid to a place that constantly fires rockets at them. But Egypt, What is their excuse? Why are you not pointing your criticism towards them as well?

The sad thing is that Israel has developed advanced technology to shoot rockets in the air. This paradoxically has been a mistake as it normalizes firing rockets as long as the casualty numbers are very low.

Please, if you can, tell me of any other example of a country that will allow constant barraging rockets towards its land and still provide aid to their enemy?

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I like how you quote critical articles from Israeli media, that is a testimony that freedom of speech is very much a real thing there.

The first article from Haaretz which is very known as anti settlements leftist newspaper. All it says is that instead of giving weapons for the population in the villages and kibbutz and cities around Gaza to defend themselves in case of intrusion, it was given for settlements in the west bank and when the shit hit the fan they were completely unprepared.

The second article is also an internal criticism of the progroms that went in Huwara. I am happy that criticism of Israel is still possible

The last one about Itzik Zarka, who should really not get a headline as he's the lowest form of scum, yeah these people exist but are very much on the fringe of society and do not deserve any attention. Unfortunately Bibi likes to use these people when convenient for him

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

They most definitely have uniforms, they just don't use them when fighting Israel as they are embedded inside civilians. And they most definitely hide and attack from schools, mosques and hospitals.

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A lot of what you said is just factually incorrect. Putting the west bank aside and focusing on Gaza, there was no humanitarian crisis before October 7 and there are no settlements in Gaza. The "snipers at the border" were not so effective on the day of October 7th when Hamas broke into Israel and massacred women and children. Hamas did not go into settlements in the west bank. It went into regular villages and cities and did what it did.

And that last part about the mocking of Holocaust survivors, not sure where you get that from

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Every Palestinian in Gaza knows they are using hospitals, mosques, schools to conduct their military operation from there. Have you seen them wearing uniforms in their videos?

This is no secret, it's playbook assymetric warfare tactic I honestly don't understand the denial about it. Do you expect them to have some military base with a helicopter landing so Israel can bomb it in a second?

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

At which point do you believe that Hamas will disarm its arsenal of rockets firing regularly at Israel ? What would need to happen for Hamas to do that you think ?

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I think Palestinians are very much conceived as the victims today world wide. And I think they are playing that card well and I don't blame them for that.

I didn't want to go to "who started it" because it's a useless debate. The cycle has been going for decades with casualties on both ends.

I'm very much capable of empathy. This whole thread is about the Israel Hamas war so I steered the discussion back to that topic.

I am very sad about the current state of affairs, there's immense suffering on both ends and it's not going to stop anytime soon. I don't hate Palestinians. As an expat Israeli, every time I see a Palestinian abroad we usually become friends and naturally have more in common.

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I'm saying exactly that, there's a propaganda echo chamber and information on the other side is very little so not sure where we disagree on that

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Do you just want to troll or have a meaningful discussion?

[-] barbarosa@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I can see you are washed with hatred, I don't blame you.

I can tell you many stories about Israeli peace activists that were affected by all this as well, like this guy for example: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/israeli-exec-who-hired-palestinians-in-tech-boom-still-hopes-for-peace-while-mourning-slain-daughter-c8af06c8

He hired engineers from Gaza and the west bank to try and foster peace through work and his daughter was murdered on Oct 7th. He still hasn't given up on hope.

If you only choose to hate, you continue to cycle

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