no. the attitude that is not useful is to make up arguments to justify our choices.

we know the fact. we choose to act on them or not. and this is the same for a lot more topics than veganism.

don't return the responsibility on the people who act to diminish suffering and waste of ressources. vegetarians like carnists contribute to keep the status quo. it's not debatable.

you choose to live how you want - within the limit of the law - and it's totally ok. but own your choices, you don't need to justify them.

we all are full of contradiction, and it's more than ok. but don't make up stuff to make them ok. just accept them.

I totally understand your point of view and think that your perception is valid. If you try to analyse why you find them preachy and judgemental it could be interesting.

For example would find them so annoying if you agree with them? Is it the discourse that annoys you or the person? Is it your belief system being challenged that annoys you or the facts that are being stated?

It's always intersting to understand why we feel that way when we are challenged, and veganism is one of a few topic that can create what we called in psychology reactance, an interesting topic.

Veganism is really different than religion tho, cause it is totally backed by science (regarding food production, waste issue, C02 and sentientism) and a logic construct.

they are great conversations about why people are so annoyed by vegans and most of the time it's not because vegans are harassing or pushing their agenda, it's more a question of how we perceive ourself when comparing ourself to others.

it's due to cognitive dissonance.

this argument that non industrial cattle is sustainable is totally moot. please check the literature available.

human are omnivore, it's a biological trait not a diet. Being omnivore doesn't mean that you need to consume animal products, in the contrary, it means that you can avoid them and still strive, as opposed as carnivore.

own your choices, plain and simple. don't blame other for taking action to reduce suffering, CO2 and waste of ressources.

you can check this theme https://kbin.social/m/logicpro

Apple Music pays two time what Spotify does. Easy pick between the two.

absolutely

https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food

https://journals.plos.org/climate/article?id=10.1371/journal.pclm.0000010

cattle.

I’ve read that it doesn’t have e2ee in its specs. Google has a proprietary tweak enabling it but Apple will stick to RSC specs.

Let’s hope that RSC gets e2ee asap.

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