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[-] amki@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

This is a core problem of distributed systems though. Signal even cites this as their reason to not federate with anyone.

Once you get decentralization going you need everyone to stay kind of up to date or stuff will just not work.

[-] amki@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

It is not. Discord's protocol has been tailormade to suit Discord and the developers will not give a single thought about keeping it stable because only the Discord server&client are meant to use it.

[-] amki@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

An XMPP developer would likely have been delusional about the protocol he himself developed. But at the time I can assure you XMPP was completely irrelevant. AIM/ICQ/MSN/Yahoo! and maybe IRC were the tools of the day back then.

Because of actual competition (which XMPP had absolutely no part in) multi protocol messengers had their golden age then.

[-] amki@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No.

  • I want to send messages to people who are not currently online (having a server stay online for you is a desparate hack and not a solution)
  • I want to send media other than text
  • I want my messages to be e2ee
  • I want presence - e.g. know if someone is available, busy, away
  • I want voice/video calls

and many more...

None of these were solved by IRC but by the others you mentioned.

[-] amki@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Also Matrix can bridge to XMPP, of course you wouldn't because nobody uses XMPP.

[-] amki@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No. There was nothing to extend and extinguish with XMPP. It was a dead on arrival protocol that nobody ever used seriously. I've been to the internet at that time and what people actually used was: AIM, ICQ, MSN and possibly even Yahoo!. (IRC for the nerds and Counter-Strike)

It was exactly the other way around. Nobody ever used XMPP, then Google opened federation on their first chat and suddenly someone was actually reachable via XMPP which was a cool thing for some nerds that were into XML then, but when Google noticed that it only imports problems with nothing to gain from the XMPP network they just shut it off.

At the time nobody cared because the people accidentally using XMPP didn't give a shit about it because they used Google not XMPP in the first place.

[-] amki@feddit.de 13 points 9 months ago

That's not even true, I run my own mailserver for private and a business and it works like expected.

[-] amki@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

Yet people claim it writes all their programming code...

[-] amki@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago

The analogy is that you buy a car (because if it breaks, the car and your entertainment stuff, you will buy a new one to replace it, you will also carry all maintenance) but suddenly you can't drive backwards anymore because the manufacturer decided retroactively that you should pay extra for that (possibly in a subscription).

I would say it is your good right then to make your car drive backwards regardless of what it may take.

[-] amki@feddit.de 13 points 9 months ago

TechnologyConnections is pretty dope

[-] amki@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago

The load distributes across more shoulders automatically.

If you only host a server for yourself and 10 friends it costs next to nothing, if you have a big operation it can get just as expensive, it depends on what you are willing to do.

With centralized systems there is no choice but for the one centralized host to host everything.

[-] amki@feddit.de 17 points 10 months ago

That is exactly what it doesn't. There is no "understanding" and that is exactly the problem. It generates some output that is similar to what it has already seen from the dataset it's been fed with that might correlate to your input.

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