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[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago

It was a free 'game' that was little more than a tutorial 🤷‍♂️

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

This is definitely one of those situations imo where such responsibility falls squarely on parents and inviting the government to handle such a thing will create far more issues than it would resolve.

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

that's an entirely legal fair use

Yet what these companies are doing does not constitute 'fair use', period, no matter how much you want to argue otherwise.

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is illegal. As an artist, if another individual or company wants to use my work for their own commercial purposes in any way, even if just to 'analyze' (since the analysis is part of their private commercial product), they still need to pay for a license to do so. Otherwise it's an unauthorized use and theft. Copyright doesn't even play into it at that point, and would be a separate issue.

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago

It's baffling to me seeing comments like this as if the 'AI' is some natural intelligence just hanging out going around reading books it's interested in for the hell of it.. No. These are software companies illegally using artists works (which we require licensing for commercial use) to develop a commercial, profit generating product. Whatever the potential outputs of the AI are is irrelevant when the sources used to train it were obtained illegally.

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Movies are made for different reasons. Some are made for the 'art', but some are made simply for entertainment. Shitty B-movies are a whole genere about being so 'bad' they're fun, and that's they're purpose. Fast and Furious movies aren't being made for the art.

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

@Gutless2615 Of course individuals can train models on their own work, but if they train it on other artists work, that too is an unauthorized use.

Honestly whether AI outputs can be copyrighted is really a separate issue from what I am concerned about.. what matters in these cases is where/ how they obtained the inputs on which they trained the models. If a corporation or individual is using other artists works without authorization they are also committing theft, irrespective of any copyright infringement.

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

@Gutless2615 corperations stealing artists work to develop their for-profit software is NOT fair use.

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

@brimnac it's not a 'someone' though. The AI isn't an actual consciousness. It's a software company illegally using other artists work to develop their own commercial product. BIG DIFFERENCE.

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Andy Hull from Manchester Orchestra

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@RightHandOfIkaros If they are just painting for themselves to learn new techniques or styles, no. If they are purposely trying to copy it to sell or pass off as the original artist, yes. A for-profit corperation taking works that have not been authorized for commercial use in order to develop their for-profit software is indeed stealing.

[-] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

An independent artist learning new styles and gaining inspiration in creating their own work is not at all the same as a profit driven software corperation stealing other artists works on a massive scale to develop their own commercial products. That's on top of most artists like myself prohibiting using our work for private commercial gain unless properly compensated or credited.

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