ithas reminded me that voting records here are public - so that actually would make this place less susceptible, I had just forgotten about that aspect.:-) But the lower volume, and more importantly the signal-to-noise ratio, probably does most of the heavy lifting:-).

Oh right, I actually forgot all about that, yes indeed that would likely help. Certainly anything is circumventable but presenting that kind of a barrier would help discourage it. Thank you for gently setting me straight:-).

The for-profit news media needs to constantly push their product, thus they say what they believe will give them the maximum reward for least effort. And they are often right.

Filters for that - to only push worthwhile content through - would themselves have a cost, and someone needs to bear it even if using donated efforts of common people (otherwise those also being for-profit just continues the same cycle, e.g. Google News serves up what it wants to give you, not what you would like to receive).

e.g. someone could create a magazine to post only the most noteworthy content. One example of that is https://kbin.social/m/BestOf, but look at how many, or rather how few, bother to post to it?

So whoever created the "News" magazine is doing what they feel is appropriate, and if someone/we want something else, like a "Only Relevant News" magazine, we would need to make it happen.

How is it less "susceptible" to brigading and trolling, or did you just mean that it tends to happen less here? ~~If anything I think it's more susceptible overall~~ (edit: thanks to ithas for reminding me that voting records are public - that actually help tremendously), but then again the need is substantially less too.

Except it can be constant, following you everywhere you go, and affecting you even when you block the person, e.g. they weaponize the "report" function in subs, and some mods simply can't keep up so end up removing your comments almost automatically.

And that is still fairly low level for Reddit, not even beginning to get deeper e.g. doxing. Sadly, bullying works, and all the more so in a place without effective moderation.:-(

Not that I've seen any of that here - it really does seem related to the "culture" of a place, like Discord or Slack or Reddit or... here, where others may call out a bully, or just ignore them entirely but instead provide positive feedback to replace it and reinforce community standards of decency.

As you just did, kudos for being awesome yourself!:-D

(1) Do you remember that ennui engine article that was making the rounds a few months ago as Reddit collapsed? I had already started thinking along those lines so it being more advanced along that road, it really helped me realize that social media being that way is the point. Also, it was extremely well written I thought, or perhaps it was just so very timely, but in any case I recall that I could barely put it down bc I wanted to just soak up that article. I shared this thought both bc the content is relevant, but also bc I want to read more content that is like that, which really makes you think rather than as you say simply doom scroll. (Although typing on a mobile, I have to fight it from changing fully formed words making perfect English sense, to using entirely different words that do not match, which further matches our theme here in saying how technology is not always so friendly.)

(2) Check out this post if you would: https://kbin.social/m/BestOf/t/177639/u-at-lvxferre-at-lemmy-ml-discusses-the-dichotomy-between-effective-moderation-vs-low-content. First it is once again relevant in multiple ways to the discussion at hand, but also note the magazine it is in: an entire one dedicated to highlighting and sharing the "best" content on the Fediverse. Note in particular how there have only been 4 posts since my own that I'm linking here... that was from 2 months ago, which REALLY helps underscore the exact message about the content: the higher the quality filter, the less of it there is. We would love to see an excellent post in our doomscrolling once a day, but what if it were only available once every other month? That magazine btw does not accept primary submissions such as my former one, only secondary content i.e. it takes a second person to nominate a post.

I would love to see a similar magazine geared toward deeper thinking. If you create or find one, please let me know?

(3) If there were such a one (probably there could be and I simply not having done the due diligence to find it yet:-D), I would share this video to it: https://youtu.be/R943_eAvnWw. If you don't want to watch the full thing, maybe skip to just the end summary, but I am saying that I found it highly relevant to again the type of content we are talking about here, compared to typical YouTube videos.

And once again, the only question is what to do about it. We cannot control others, who e.g. Won't Look Up, all we can control is ourselves. So what will we do, who want such as this? I cannot create such a magazine btw bc I am on Kbin which iirc has zero moderation tools (or an API). I might create a Lemmy account purely to create such a magazine, but then I cannot migrate my existing account over... that was a major selling point for the Fediverse but turned out to be a lie (for now). So the state of the current tools really does impact the end result. If you have a solution though, e.g. if you will create such a space for deeper thoughts, I would love to join it.

Note it is easy to make a bookmark to a specific magazine, so that someone can check that (once a day? week?) and still have access to doomscrolling on their mobile devices, which ngl is a heck of a lot easier to perform than to type (especially on Kbin using a browser rather than an app).

At this point I think I would seriously start to worry about myself if everyone on Reddit agreed with me:-P.

One good news about the Notifications issue is that it only affects the single "page" of the comment that caused it (I think when a mod on another instance removes a post thus different parts of Kbin "see" it - the notification counter - while other parts cannot see it hence it crashes itself). But when enough other notifications rack up that are not affected, it falls behind to page 2 and you can begin using notifications again.

Until it happens again with a new content and the cycle repeats. But my notifications are now permanently stuck at just 1 (or more but that 1 at least can never be removed) and I can use my notifications again... for now.

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God creates Man.

Man creates... Unity.

Oops.

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

United Sheesh of Americas.

The list can go on as long as you want it to. :-P

Bold of you to assume that "that side" can / will read.

(\s btw, as I'm sure you guessed but others may not have so... just in case:-D)