I agree with JustARaccoon's reply to your comment, and also this is really turning from a respectful debate into a ridiculous argument for something most everyone thinks is wrong. The artists should get their compensation. I don't care how "improbable" it is, it needs to happen.

The problem being, how do we get it banned?

By "figure it out" I meant "figure out a way to get big companies on board"

I also agree that ethical sourcing is pretty ridiculous given real world constraints, but I'm holding out hope that someone figures it out.

[Lemmy] is very pro-piracy

There's a bit of a difference, I'd say. Piracy hurts massive companies that already have tons of money to spare and (to be frank) don't need any more. AI hurts individual artists that barely make a living as is. It's like comparing Robin Hood to whatever the inverse of Robin Hood is (OpenAI, I guess). Point is, I have zero issue with generative AI, I do however have issue with the companies behind it. If all of their data was sourced ethically, and the people creating the training data actually got compensation, I'd be fine with it. Everything can be a tool for high effort and low effort content, it's just increasingly insulting to creators that their work is being stolen and then twisted into something with considerably less effort that makes more money than they could ever hope to make. In other words, dead internet theory.

That's one way to put it.

This legitimately made me laugh for like 30 seconds

what is wrong with me

something something 1969 snoopy calendar

lookin for Debian in all the wrong places

lookin for Debian in too many faces

it's what real programmers use.

thanks for reminding me why I use an ad blocker (and why I hate pro-life fuckers)

I’d say that’s less of a competition and more of a dying speedrun any%