You seem knowledgeable so I figured I'd ask a more specific question, any recs for fans of UK style (like Scream and Loefah )? I'm digging this Mystic State, too.

The older the better!

They def won't be too extreme for you (I mean lmk if any are I guess), and some you'll likely know already probably, but you'll probably like some of them just judging from your challenge (mixed subgenres):

Insect Warfare
Skinless
Nunslaughter
Toxic Holocaust
Devourment
Whitechapel
Cattle Decapitation
Eyehategod
Nails
Wormrot
Anal Cunt
His Hero Is Gone
Carcass
Dropdead
Infest
Cryptopsy
Necrophagist
Magrudergrind
Sete Star Sept
Suppression
ACxDC
Lovgun (bisou, 2012)

Some of those are more yelly than growly, but check 'em out! Since you didn't call out a specific genre like goregrind or something I got a little carried away haha.

Ehh, SOAD maybe, and kiiiiiinda RATM but it's a stretch, but NIN is hardline Industrial, and Tool is really kinda just heavy Prog (not a judgement against it, there's nothing wrong with Prog!)

HA!

But yeah even if another fediporn popped up it'd still have the same growing problems lemmy does (with the exception that the murderous "re~~action~~volutionaries" wouldn't be scaring the normal people needed for normal content away from the site, naturally). Frankly at the moment it seems lemmy's the best chance for growth in that regard.

No worries!

It's definitely not impossible. Whatever it is I hope dude is ok. And I still encourage the use of FOSS whenever possible.

Did he travel to Russia? I thought you said he traveled to China. If so aaah "because he's there?" If he was in Russia I'd be inclined to agree regardless of his nationality that Russia would be the be the bigger threat, in my opinion "the country he's in" would be a step above "a separate country that is at war with another separate country."

What country did the guy travel to? I thought they said it was China, if not then my mistake, but if so, "yes it does."

If there was an american national dev in a country where america couldn't touch them, and they suddenly traveled to the US and dropped contact, it would certainly be suspicious that the NSA or CIA could be involved.

Very true, but we can't just not criticise a government because the people involved checks notes "aren't white." What would make them above criticism? In my view the only possible answer is because (and it's usually applied to children or the mentally disabled,) "they don't understand what they're doing." In my personal opinion "Nonwhite people" are just as capable as "white people" of knowing what they're doing, as they are not by default children or mentally disabled (though they do also have both categories, and those categories should get a little more leeway). They know spying is wrong whether they're "chinese" or "american."

Exactly, but being that this thread involves the country known as China, the reason to distrust those proprietary blobs is the CCP. If this thread were about an american dev, the threat would be NSA/CIA, if Russian FSB, on and on, as such.

No he wasn't, he was saying never trust Chinese proprietary code (blobs), because they can compel citizens. If you can audit the code you can audit the code, the country becomes irrelevant.

Furthermore in this instance even if he was saying "don't trust chinese devs," not because they're bad people, but "because they live under an oppressive regime that can force them to do the bad thing," that's still not racist, it's still a criticism of the regime itself that very well could be rectified (well good luck.)

The claims are neither irrational nor hysterical, they're totally grounded and based in reality, and we should be just as suspicious of them as we are of The West™®©. What's more, being critical of china in a context where it's relevant while not mentioning The West™®© doesn't mean you never criticise anyone other than China and Russia, it means the current conversation is regarding China. If this were a story of an American dev being sketchy and including proprietary blobs, me and you, probably would be in here wondering if the NSA or CIA is involved rather than saying "but the CCP." I remain critical of proprietary software regardless of it's origin.