A society's greatness can only be measured by how they treat their most vulnerable citizens.
You mean the worse they treat them the greater the greatness, right? Like Sparta, right bro?
People who say this are free to let the homeless sleep on their couch or in their yard, but they won't.
Great! If the spikes weren't inclusive trans people might feel excluded from the ban of sleeping on them
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How can it be that people don't realize how badly faked this is and what position it is trying to sneak through?
You mean you don't believe that Hostile architecture exists? Or are you just saying that this specific example doesn't?
This specific example is badly photoshopped
That's not really the point, though.
Edit to elaborate: Whether or not this specific one is real, it perfectly illustrates the hypocrisy of trans ally neoliberals who persecute and punish unhoused people for existing near them.
If there were so many examples of this in the real world, then you wouldn’t need to photoshop one.
Again, it's an illustration of the hypocrisy. It doesn't need to literally exist as a physical object in order to make the point.
It's a fabrication of a hypocrisy. If the hypocrisy is real, you wouldn’t need to fabricate it.
I mean the hypocrisy really exists, but you're right that this particularly egregious and shocking example is likely a total fabrication.
Sometimes fiction and altered objects depict abstract concept better than real physical objects do and neoliberals tend not to say the quiet parts loudly like the fascist party on the other side of the aisle has increasingly been doing in recent years.
Do you not recognize that this is deceitful? I understand how fiction can present allegories to demonstrate real world themes. But this isn’t that. This is meant to portray reality and real life hypocrisy but is not actually real.
If the hypocrisy is true, why the deception?
If the hypocrisy is true, why the deception
Because the hypocrites do an effective job at explaining away and obfuscating their hypocrisy. This makes if clear in an way that literal reality doesn't.
The rich people weren't literally eating the babies of poor people when Jonathan Swift wrote A Modest Proposal, but that doesn't mean that his point about their callous disregard for those less fortunate was fraudulent.
This is basically visual satire.
Satire is not deceitful. You’re not meant to read A Modest Proposal and think rich people are eating poor babies. You’re meant to recognize the allegory and what it says about our real world.
This post is not satire. It is meant to deceive you into believing it is a real photo.
You're being way too rigid and literal. That's not how it is.
This post is not satire. It is meant to deceive you into believing it is a real photo.
Says you based on faulty reasoning leading to a seemingly willful misunderstanding of the point.
You can’t lie to somebody and when called out say, it’s just satire.
I’m not being rigid at all. You are changing the definition of satire so you don’t have to admit this post is BS.
Nobody said that it physically exists. That's a claim that you inferred.
I repeat: nowhere in the OP or even in the comments does anyone say that it physically exists. The lie you keep complaining about is of your own invention.
This is hilariously flawed logic. I’m guessing you know this and are just trolling now, so I’m gonna tap out.
You do to make it fun.
But your statement suggests you don't think its a thing.
The French Revolution was well documented and people still enjoy A Tale of Two Cities
Are you saying we don't need any fiction - novels, tv, movies, jokes, comics, memes... because there exists non-fiction versions?
I mean that someone saw hostile architecture and then decided to add a trans flag for political reasons.
We, as strangers, will never know their exact motivation, but I think if their idea was a message regarding the unfair treatment of economically disadvantaged people, there would be much better ways to communicate the issue that doesn't involve something that can easily be construed as an anti-trans messaging.
It's a bit vibes based, but you know.... People ain't robots, and even if that wasn't the original intent, that's how the message comes across. So I'd rather have a better, more poignant one that's worth repeating, rather than this, perhaps unintentionally, worse one.
Yeah, that's not a reasonable interpretation. Intersectionality and criticism of lack of same is by far the most likely intent behind this picture.
Pretending otherwise kinda seems like grasping at straws to avoid addressing the shortcomings of your favorite neoliberals.
My "favorite neolineral"?
I'm an entire person, not a single-sided strawman. I edited my reply to also state that I think neolibs suck too, if that helps to unflatten my thoughts on this a bit. And because I think they do.
I'd also like to add that I've seen this image and others like it posted in anti-progressive groups by anti-progressive people, instilling exactly the message I explained earlier. Which is why I say the message either isn't clear, or just bad.
I don't feel like I'm "gasping at straws". I feel my argument is somewhat reasonable and I hope my point is a little clearer now.
I have to go back to work now.
I still believe that your interpretation is unreasonable and mine is much more likely regardless of your anecdotal experience in anti-progressive groups, but I apologize for unfairly assuming bad intent on your part. Have a nice day!
Thanks, you too!
If I had to take a guess at the motivations, I think someone saw the spikes as well as the equality sign in the window and took a picture because that's kinda a juxtaposition. But I'm guessing that didn't give enough "zing" that would be noticed as an internet post, so they edited the trans flag on the spikes to make it less subtle.
I mean I think it's just meant to be a shitpost
This concept is liberalism at its finest
Specifically the NIMBYest of NIMBY "the solution is to fund the police" neoliberalism. 🖕
Is this one real at least? Because that's a great concrete example of the kind of hypocrisy the op is alluding to
I honestly don't know and still contend that it doesn't matter whether or not it is 🤷
I mean yeah the point is the same, and this is universally awful no matter the colour. I would still like to know if this exact case of lib bs has actually occurred
Turns out it's not:
“Ya’ll, we made a mistake! While rocks r a common [part] of anti-homeless architecture, this particular rock is NOT. It’s a Japanese garden,” said the Coalition On Homeless. “Izakaya Sushi is a valued member of the community and is supportive of its homeless neighbors. We apologize [and] offer deep appreciation to the staff.”
Good to hear. Especially this part
Restaurant management also says that homeless people sometimes sleep in their entryway after hours without disturbance.
It pokes you if you sit on it?
We fell in love in a homeless place... We fell in love in a hooOoomless plaaace...
Nice, anti homeless and anti disabled all at once (lack of streetside seating makes getting around challenging for mobility limited people)
This is California in a nut shell.
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