Israel-Gaza war: Recovered bodies show 'bloodthirsty' gunmen 'took time over torture' - and that Hamas has changed (news.sky.com)

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[-] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 25 points 1 year ago

Is it 40 beheaded babies or just one guy?

There shouldn’t be this much debate. Pics or it didn’t happen.

[-] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh it’s the same fucking dude. Why are we posting this uncritically?

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 47 points 1 year ago

I see a lot of people debating whether Hamas beheaded babies, and I just want to point out a few things:

It doesn't really materially matter. The key facts here are: Hamas murdered children, and Israel has and is in the process of murdering children. Whether a baby dies by machete or airstrike, we need to find a clear voice with which to demand an end to the current hostilities and then an end to the apartheid regime and occupation.

I really want to emphasize that I admire the skepticism people are showing, and agree that the critical lens is appropriate. At the same time, I hope people don't waste time arguing whether this one specific fact is true or not. Because again, if it's true, it doesn't mean that Israel has license to kill children. And if it's false, it doesn't exonerate Hamas for killing children.

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The leaders and fighters of Hamas need to be brought to justice for these horrendous and evil acts of terror.

The leaders of Israel need to be brought to justice for the enprisonment and genocide of the Palestinian people, giving rise to terrorist ideology like Hamas follows.

Hamas would not exist without the Israeli political goals to remove Palestine's claim to the land

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

In the attack on the Nova music festival, for example, the gunmen abducted some of the partygoers, and then murdered many more, spraying them with gunfire and throwing grenades into places they were hiding.

The hiding places included toilets, dirt bins, cars, and bomb shelters.

The testimony of the people charged with recovering the dead is disturbing and difficult to listen to, but they want everyone to understand just how horrific it was.

They agree a digger will go forward and pick up the dead, and we take another route to another site to collect a handful of bodies.

Read more:Couple's desperate messages before massacre revealedHow the war has escalated since shocking surprise attackFormer Israeli PM calls for Netanyahu to leave office

Using a can of spray paint, members of Zaka then mark the bags with an X, designating that they aren't civilians but that they are the bodies of the killers.

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