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[-] TheYang@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well, that's neat.

But where is that really relevant? Typical albedo of anything around a solar panel seems to be like around .2, meaning that these cells which have 23% efficiency on the front, and ~21% on the back.
Solar Irradiance is usually less than 7kWh/m²day.
So this Panel could get around 1.6kWh/m²day on the front and 0.3kwH/m²day on the back.

Isn't cost way more relevant than getting a few more % efficiency?

As long as "we" (as in humanity) can't afford to put solar panels on the top of every/most surfaces that we build, it seems that driving down the cost is more paramount.
Luckily that is happening too though

[-] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bifaciality isn't new or limited to perovskite based PV. Ground reflection is also not the only source of indirect light.

This article is very bad, but bifacial panels are starting to dominate the industry for good reason. The backside gives a 5-20% boost in total annual yield (which is worth it on its own), but more importantly that boost is skewed towards times with low direct irradiance (such as cloudy days). This reduces the amount of storage required.

It also allows other orientations. Vertical installations have huge advantages including better compatibility with agrivoltaics, generation skewed towards times where low tilt panels don't produce (morning-evening for east-west and winter for north-south), better dual use, and lower racking cost. Glass-glass encapsulisation is also more durable and this alone pays for most of the added cost.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the background. My panels are dual glass encapsulated but not bifacial -- not that I would be able to profit from it anyway.

[-] Hedup@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, that's great for planets in twin star systems.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Hmm, I talked with grid solar people who've been using this for a while about a year ago. Maybe this is a new version? Anyway, they were saying that it really helps in the winter when you can harvest the reflected light from the snow. But doesn't do a ton usually.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

If it helps with snow, white paint or light coloured concrete should work fine too. No?

As the planet warms, we'll increasingly need to paint flat roofs white anyway.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but the people I was taking to worked in grid scale rather than utility scale, so in fields rather than buildings. You'd want to avoid paving over the whole field for cost, but also avoiding huge runoff. They are often also renting the fields for 20 to 30 years rather than buying them outright, so paving over the whole thing wouldn't be appreciated.

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Plant daisies, or graze white sheep under them :)

[-] Smatt@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Lol yeah the high albedo of grazing sheep has been tragically understudied until now.

They're soooo floofy.

[-] tinwhiskers@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

TLDR; the front side is 23% efficient, and the rear side 20% efficient.

They don't actually give an overall efficiency but it implies a total of 43%. They compare this to typical panels also at 23% efficient, so it's really remarkable if true. Other emerging solar tech is up to about 32% but if that could also benefit from multiple layers then total efficiency could become insane.

Seems a little too good to be true, really, but great if so.

Edit: Yeah, I don't think these efficiencies can be added like that. I guess the overall efficiency will depend on how reflective the ground under the panels is, and they will extract 20% of that. Maybe that's why they don't give an overall rating.

[-] erezac@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think you can just add up efficiency percentages like that…

[-] humanplayer2@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Sure you can. That's why a UV lamp shining at the six 20% solar panels that power it can run your FTL drive.

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