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I believe that the Fediverse can and should be more than a niche thing for those that reject Big Tech.

I also believe that to get there we will need businesses, service providers and professional developers who work on it because they are motivated by more than just "community values" and goodwill. For example, I have quite a bit experience with distributed systems and I know I could work to make Lemmy federation more efficient, but I can only do that if I can secure a stable income.

Please follow the linked Mastodon thread and vote on the polls. The idea is to find out if there are enough people willing to pay for services that can ease their pains with Mastodon/Lemmy/Matrix.

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[-] retronautickz@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

We definitely do not need business or premium services here.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 year ago

Excuse me, who made you mayor of the Fediverse?

[-] retronautickz@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

I see you have trouble with people not agreeing with you...

[-] rglullis@communick.news -1 points 1 year ago

I really don't mind disagreement. What bothered me:

  • your use of the "Royal We" to express a personal opinion.
  • not backing up said opinion with any type of argument, which makes it sound like you are simply stating it as a fact.

When you write like that, it gives no chance to have a productive conversation.

[-] retronautickz@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

your use of the “Royal We” to express a personal opinion.

You do understand that it's an expression, don't you?

not backing up said opinion with any type of argument, which makes it sound like you are simply stating it as a fact.

It's a fact. Monetisation of any kind is against the mere idea of federated social media. People com here to be away from corporations, advertising and the like. The model of social media that seeks to make social networking into a business model is in crisis, why would anyone want to made the fediverse into that?

[-] rglullis@communick.news -1 points 1 year ago

Monetisation of any kind is against the mere idea of federated social media.

Again, opinion-as-fact.

People com here to be away from corporations, advertising and the like.

Okay, let's see where you are going with that...

The model of social media that seeks to make social networking into a business model is in crisis

That does not follow from your the first sentence.

Not every business is a "corporation". Not every professional that provides a service for money is a rent-seeker.

The fact that there are "business coming to the fediverse" does not mean that they can only operate on the same (failed) business models from Big Tech.

If you bothered to look into the polls I did in the original submission you'd see that I do not want to apply the Silicon Valley playbook here. If you go take a look at my first blog post about communick, you would see that the last thing I want to have is a "Corporation" in the Fediverse, but instead I want to have it strong and attractive enough for small, independent service providers, so that it can become a mainstream alternative and not just a niche for outsiders.

[-] retronautickz@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

If you go take a look at my first blog post about communick, you would see that the last thing I want to have is a “Corporation” in the Fediverse, but instead I want to have it strong and attractive enough for small, independent service providers

No. What you want is to make money out of decentralised social media.

Not every business is a “corporation”. Not every professional that provides a service for money is a rent-seeker

People offering their services and talent for money already exist on the fediverse.

The fact that there are “business coming to the fediverse” does not mean that they can only operate on the same (failed) business models from Big Tech.

Funny. Because in the polls you asked a question about features someone would be interested in pay for. Some of which are characteristical of corporate social media...

[-] rglullis@communick.news -1 points 1 year ago

What you want is to make money out of decentralised social media.

By providing a service and building things that can improve the ecosystem, not by rent-seeking.

None of what I am doing or thinking about doing is exclusive. Managed Hosting? Subscriber-only accounts? Add-on features? What is so evil about these business models?

People offering their services and talent for money already exist on the fediverse.

So what is your problem with my polls?

Some of which are characteristical of corporate social media…

What is "corporate" about that?

this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2023
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