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[-] christian@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago

It really bugs me when people don't comment their code at all. I have no idea what this is supposed to do.

[-] sfxrlz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago

Because it supports Unicode as variable/class/function names and Unicode includes all the characters humans have ever used, even dead languages (I assume for historians to digitize ancient texts?)

[-] maniel@sopuli.xyz 87 points 4 days ago
[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Am I blind? I can't see where 👀 is defined.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Take a look at all the struct definition. It's a pure virtual method of 🍴 with a bunch of overrides in the structs that inherit from 🍴.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Oh, right, using the same function name in multiple structs is what threw me off

[-] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago

Thank you for this cursed knowledge.

[-] 00L10@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

May I introduce you to emojicode...

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

A little LESS chaotically, you can use emojis to name objects in Blender now... Which, I dunno, could be kinda fun in the right doses.

This picture had me progressively laughing harder as it progressed though LOL.

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 162 points 4 days ago

Isn't it all unicode at the end of the day, so it supports anything unicode supports? Or am I off base?

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 69 points 4 days ago

Ssh! 🫢 You’ll ruin the joke!

[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 days ago

Okay but how does starting a secure shell help?

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago

Are you serious? I just explained that to you two seconds ago

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[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 4 days ago

Yes, but the language/compiler defines which characters are allowed in variable names.

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[-] Faresh@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago

I think they exclude some unicode characters from being use in identifiers. At least last I tried it wouldn't allow me to use an emoji as a variable name.

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[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 14 points 3 days ago

I don't know much about coding, but I know Cuneiform isn't an alphabet.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 88 points 4 days ago

Let's hope Ea-nāṣir's code is better than his copper.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 33 points 4 days ago

I hear it's prone to Rust.

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Unironically awesome. You can debate if it hurts the ability to contribute to a project, but folks should be allowed to express themselves in the language they choose & not be forced into ASCII or English. Where I live, English & Romantic languages are not the norm & there are few programmers since English is seen as a perquisite which is a massive loss for accessibility.

The hotter take: languages like APL, BQN, & Uiua had it right building on symbols (like we did in math class) for abstract ideas & operations inside the language, where you can choose to name the variables whatever makes sense to you & your audience.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Honestly it wouldn't even be that hard to release full translated versions of existing programming languages. Like Python in Punjabi or Kotlin in Chinese or something (both of which already support unicode variable/class/function names). Just have a lookup table to redefine each keyword and standard library name to one in that language, it can literally just be an additional translation layer above the compiler/interpreter that converts the code to the original English version.

It's honestly really surprising that non-English speakers have developed entirely new programming languages in their own language (unfortunately none of which are getting very widespread use even among speakers of that language), but the practice of simply translating a widely used and industry standard English programming language doesn't seem to be much of a thing.

If I ever make my own programming language, I'm probably going to bake multi-language support into the compiler. Just supply it with a lookup table of translated terms and the code in that language.

[-] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah. Tbh, I always wondered why programming languages weren't translated.

I know CS is all about english, but at least the default builtin functions of programming languages could get translated (as well as APIs that care about themselves).

Like, I can't say I don't like it this way (since I'm a native english speaker), but I still wonder what if you could translate code.

Variables could cause problems (more work with translation or hard to understand if not translated). But still - programming languages have no declentions and syntax is simpler so it shouldn't even compare to "real" languages with regards to difficulty of implementation.

[-] hikaru755@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I'm German, and I would not want that. German grammar works differently in a way that makes programming a lot more awkward for some reason. Things like, ".forEach" would technically need three different spellings depending on the grammatical gender of the type of element that's in the collection it's called on. Of course you could just go with neuter and say it refers to the "items" in the collection, but that's just one of lots of small pieces of awkwardness that get stacked on top of each other when you try to translate languages and APIs. I really appreciate how much more straightforward that works with English.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Programs aren’t written by a single team of developers that speak the same language. You’d be calling a library by a Hungarian with additions from an Indian in a framework developed by Germans based on original work by Mexicans.

If no-one were forcing all of them to use English by only allowing English keywords, they’d name their variables and functions in their local language and cause mayhem to readability.

[Edit:] Even with all keywords being forced to English, there’s often half-localized code.

I can’t find the source right now, but I strongly believe that Steve McConnell has a section in one of his books where he quotes a function commented in French and asks, “Can you tell the pitfall the author is warning you about? It’s something about a NullPointerException”. McConnell then advises against local languages even in comments

[-] eRac@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

Excel functions are translated. This leads to being pretty much locked out of any support beyond documentation if your system language isn't English.

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[-] RandomStickman@fedia.io 67 points 4 days ago

Ea Nasir over here selling subpar code now

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 4 days ago

Security by ~~Obscurity~~ Antiquity

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago

now that's job security

[-] EonNShadow@pawb.social 52 points 4 days ago
[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 28 points 4 days ago

Don't you mean 𒁷𒀱𒀉?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

This is how we end up with snow crash.

[-] H4rdStyl3z@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 days ago

Iltam sumra rashupti ilatim moment 🗿

[-] SsxChaos@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 days ago

Wtf I just said these words out loud and the furniture started floating o.o

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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 10 points 4 days ago

So we can automate spell glyphs now?

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Terry Pratchett was ahead of his time.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Bro thats fucking amazing 😂

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 15 points 4 days ago

Most languages are like this. Even C is like this.

[-] basmati@lemmus.org 20 points 4 days ago

Depends on the compiler, I'm pretty sure some versions of Borland shit themselves if you introduce an accent mark at the wrong time, much less support Unicode.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Sexigesimal is the best numbering system, change my mind

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