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[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 0 points 1 week ago

135° for anyone wondering.

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

correct, just commening the 100/80 intersection looks like 90/90, i think it was intentionally misleading, classic trying to get you problem

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Yes I originally thought 90 but then noticed the absence of a right angle sign. Also 60+40=100 which means the last angle should be 80. Making that perpendicular 100/80

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

For context: it used to be 675° a few years back so the math checks out.

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

that's not how global warming works

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Nope. The value is "undefined". You don't have enough info to arrive at 135 - you are assuming that the bottom angle (sum of the angles that touch) is 180 degrees. Since there isn't a datum saying the bottom "line" is straight, nor does it say the triangle on the right is an isosceles triangle, it is impossible to solve.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I don't see any indication that this is limited to the Euclidean plane either

[-] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Haha, I love this.

Also nothing indicates the numbers are Arabic numerals.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

You can't prove it's not hexadecimal.

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

I think assuming 2 line segments which make up a larger straight line segment to be parallel is generally accepted practice, and that would trump the angles that are drawn inaccurately.

Of course, it'd be better to put a hash through them both to indicate they're parallel, especially given the deceptively drawn most-likely-not-a-right-angle.

I got 125.

180-(90-35)=x 180-55=x 125=x

[-] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You're assuming it is a right angle

Nothing states that it is

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Even if it was a right angle, I think a second assumption is that the top left and bottom lines are equal length, which is also not stated.

I think there's just not enough information in this picture to calculate the angle, and it can only be determined by measuring. But the image also does not specify that it is drawn to scale.

[-] AcesFullOfKings@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

the lengths are irrelevant. the only info you need to solve this is that a triangle's internal angles add to 180, and angles on a straight line add to 180

[-] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh shit you're right. The left triangles unmarked angle is 80, meaning the right triangles internal angles are 100, 35, and 45. This means X is 135

[-] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago

It isn't 90 degrees because the image is misleading. 60+40+y=180. y=80

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, simple doodle below for anyone wondering.

You start from left, and calculate them 1 by 1, based on the angles that you already know. It is quite simple actually, you just have to know they always add up to 180 (within triangle, and when you “split” the space over a straight line).

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

you mean to say the right angles aren't right angles? disgusting, get this outta my sight

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

evil math teacher laughing in background

[-] spiffpitt@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

this diagram does not provide a right angle indicator, and thus should not be assumed as a right angle

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago

yes that's the stupid excuse my math teacher would give

[-] AcesFullOfKings@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

ah, the old "we drew a right angle but it represents some other angle" trick. I've been burned by that one more times than I can count.

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

I'd get out my red pen and write: "Bad diagram. -1pt See me after class."

[-] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago

I hated pictures like this in school. The numbers are just slapped on an inaccurate image and somehow they expect people to ignore the obvious right triangles and just focus on the math part of it.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

If it was to scale you could just use a protractor and skip the whole math part, which is the entire part of the lesson…

[-] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago

I don't see that as a downside as long as these two questions are also included.

How many degrees make up the inner angles of a triangle?

How many degrees make up one side of a straight line?

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Big assumption that the bottom line is straight / not two lines connecting at a different angle

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

And what’s wrong with that. Utilizing real world solutions to problems is a life skill. Not some obscure formula that you will forget anyway.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Adding and subtracting is a real life solution. Not sure how that is "obscure"

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

You are being obtuse. You know what I mean by obscure.

[-] Glemek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Its intended to focus on a specific skill, the other skill can be valid and not be the point of the lesson.

[-] elxeno@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Then they could use decimals so it's unlikely to get it right without calculating, 60.17°, 40.29°, 35.43°

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

Fun fact: In Turkey's university admittance exam, all angles have to be absolutely accurate, and measurements have to be scaled down perfectly to the visible shape in a geometry question.

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

all angles have to be absolutely accurate

To what tolerance, though? Writing math exams has now become an engineering problem.

[-] nul9o9@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I was scared I forgot basic trig stuff.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

If the student eventually does geometry for money, they'll discover that customer CAD files invariably have some bizarre error like this.

[-] wieson@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago

It's even easier than going the triangle route.

A four-corner shape always has 360° internally.

So the internal angle of corner X is 360-(60+40+35).

The exterior angle therefore is 360-360-(60+40+35) = 60+40+35 = 135

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

That's based on the assumption that the two angles in the middle add up to 180, which can't be assumed by inspection alone as demonstrated by the visibly square 80° angle

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

No, you should completely ignore the bottom half of the center line. You end up with a shape with four turns. Those four internal angles always add to 360.

[-] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

He is saying your shape might have 5 turns instead of 4 if the bottom line is not actually a line. Though if that was the case, the problem would not be solvable, so I doubt it.

[-] anonymouse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Nice one, forgot this was an option too. You are missing a set of brackets though ;)

[-] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

I love that every comment focus on the math puzzle. Since the other stuff is clearly uninteresting.

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