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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 92 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh man, I was going to wishlist it and wait but now I'll have to buy it on launch week.

EDIT: Sabre Interactive understands that the Emperor's light shields the faithful, making dark machine rites like Denuvo unnecessary. Such heretical rites only agitate the machine spirits, causing discordant whispers that play into the hands of the enemies of Man. The Omnissiah smiles upon this decision.

[-] Modva@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

If this game releases with good quality my friends and I are day 2 customers for sure. Seems fun as hell from the videos.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'm still pretty gutted about there being a season pass and DLC and stuff, but... I might be a week 4 customer ๐Ÿ‘€ it does look fun!

[-] Mister_Feeny@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago

On the upshot, that season pass and the DLC stuff is all cosmetic only. All gameplay additions will be free for all.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

I still strongly dislike limiting cosmetics so much, especially in a setting where they can mean so much. Darktide's $20 skins pissed me right off: role-playing is 100% part of the game and that price is absurd.

[-] Mister_Feeny@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly, fair criticism, as it is still a $60 game and in my old timer's brain that means everything should be unlockable through gameplay. Unfortunately, that's just not how the market seems to work anymore, so I'll just be glad their extra monetization is only limited to cosmetics and not gameplay stuff as well.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that's true, you're right. Altho, I am still skeptical of it - if you have DLC ready to go before launch... Why isn't it in the base game?

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's like booking a hotel: Basic price will get you a room for the night, with all the common amenities, but if you want late checkout, you'll pay extra. Sure, they could fold that into the basic price and make it the norm, but if you know you'll leave early anyway, you'll be paying for something you don't want.

The metaphor breaks apart if you look too closely - for hotels, early checkout is a convenience since they can get the room ready sooner for the next guest, so they'll incentivise that, while the devs have already put in the work. On the other hand, the late checkout is a service of convenience while a DLC is an excitement feature, where the content is instead an incentive to pay more.

Either way, I feel like add-ons for games aren't too different from add-ons in many other industries: "This is the basic , with the price we feel we can charge for it. This here is an extra you can have for an extra charge."

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

But if you don't pay for late checkout, you can still check out. If you don't pay for extra DLC, you just don't get to use whatever is in the DLC full stop

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

If you don't pay for late checkout, you can't check out late. If you don't pay for the DLC, you can't play the DLC. You can still check out at the normal time (which is the basic service) or play the base game, respectively.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah I just think the allegory doesn't work at that point, but I do understand what you're saying. I honestly still think it's bullshit, but it is definitely a case of each to their own!

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

It is better to buy for the emperor than save for yourself

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

the emperor is nickel and diming me to build his golden throne ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[-] Flipper@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Factorio did it perfectly. Developed a game and when it was finished 1.0 went yes that is the game state we want. Went 5 years into hiding, came back with a massive DLC, but the quality of life stuff and engine improvements all get pushed to the base game.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

Better wait a bit, until the inofficial beta is over, Denuvo or not.

[-] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I would hesitate to call our foes "Intelligences," but they are most certainly Abominable, brother.

[-] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 weeks ago

This seems really promising. Unfortunately, I expect they'll still use Steam DRM, but everything I've heard so far is immensely promising so who know, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll skip even that.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

Steam DRM is nothing like stuff people should be aware of. Ask any modder for confirmation.

[-] Rose@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Modder here. Denuvo has absolutely no effect on modding. Steam DRM checks the integrity of the executable and also crashes on breakpoints. That said, it's easy to remove with Steamless. Memory hacks work fine.

Edit: However, Space Marine 2 is going to use EAC, which is a kernel-level anti-cheat which prevents any modding short of utilizing or creating private hacks that may involve rogue system drivers.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Hard disagree on denuvo. If it's no problem for you then you must have tons of experience in re. Which puts you into some 1%-ish group. Depends on the type of mods you do of course.

[-] Rose@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

I do have the experience but if you attach a debugger to a non-Denuvo or a Denuvo game, then have any hacker/modder come into the room and look at the code, manipulate it or inject new code, they won't notice the difference or face any obstacles.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

Dammit, EAC may be an issue on Linux though. It's kinda hit or miss whether a given developer will take the extra steps, particularly given the conflicting sources on just how complex it actually is. According to Valve, it's a checkbox and dropping a file in your depot. Others claim it would require an Epic Online Services version of EAC, with all the baggage that carries, including potentially rewriting a whole chunk of your code.

[-] nizvicious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I had read they have confirmed the game will be coming to steam deck shortly after, so I assume this will be working on Linux day one. I play on Linux and enjoy Warhammer so will be purchasing this game with that assumption.

Edit to include a link to the article I had read: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/08/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2-will-get-steam-deck-support/

[-] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Of course. Doesn't mean its not nice to be able to avoid it though. Personally, it will have no real impact on my purchasing decision, but the less DRM, the better.

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 14 points 2 weeks ago

Games are comming back

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago

Another concise and simple answer to Denuvo and DRM is "exterminatus".

[-] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 13 points 1 week ago

They don't need Denuvo protection because the Emperor protects.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

If I had any expendable income right now, I'd preorder for that stance alone.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Just in case they run out of digital copies

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[-] anivia@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

They are going to use EAC though, which is arguably an even worse inclusion than Denuvo, even if it's not a DRM

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