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Russian sources confirm Tsiklon Karakurt-class missile ship was sunk by US-supplied ATACMS missiles (www.armyrecognition.com)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Ukrainian spokesman Dmytro Pletenchuk stated on television that the attack, which involved two US-provided ATACMS missiles, could signify the loss of the last Russian cruise missile carrier in Crimea.

Sheesh. I wonder if they have any left over in Novorossiysk. Their Black Sea fleet is so shot, it’s crazy

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago

Black sea submarine fleet :)

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

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[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

Indeed, traditional russy submarines have front doors.

[-] nahuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

I don’t think we need to resort to racist jokes about Poles, do we?

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In high school, one of the students in my shop class told a Polish joke.

The teacher was Polish, and was exactly what you would expect from a shop teacher. He heard the joke. Without saying a word, he walked over to the student, picked him up with one hand by his neck, looked at him steadily for a beat while dangling him in the air, and then put him back down and walked away.

Nothing more was said, then or after, and as far as I know the kid didn’t tell any more Polish jokes.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

I assume this happened somewhere that is not Poland, but could you tell what country it was in? It definitely seems like an uncivilised manner to teach even if efficient

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This was in the US back in the drinking from the hose water days. Probably if something like that happened today, it would be a big deal, yes.

I think for my opinion it is fine. He didn’t hurt the kid in any capacity, and maybe the lesson he taught him will stick with him later, in situations where the consequences aren’t so measured and forgiving. But that’s just my take on it.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

It's just that I find people who can impress much more admirable than those that can scare. But then again, maybe he didn't scare but impressed that student, the times were different for sure

[-] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet

By March 2024, Ukraine's Navy spokesman Dmytro Pletenchuk said they had disabled or destroyed one third of the Russian Black Sea fleet.[7]

That being said, keep in mind that some of those ships are specialized and interdependent. Like, a seagoing fleet tug doesn't do you nearly as much good without an aircraft carrier to tow and vice versa. So even aside from Ukraine focusing on more-valuable ships, I expect that even a random one-third of ships being lost would probably cause a greater degradation of capability than one-third.