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[-] MudMan@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is such a pet peeve of mine.

Why are anglo writers obsessed with using latin as some ancient, mystical language? Why would Latin be tied to magic in any way? Do they realize that Latin was spoken all through Europe for millenia and its vulgar form evolved into tons of current languages? Or that people were using latin in churches, courtrooms and universtities all the way up to the 20th century? Latin was an optional in my high school. I took two years.

If random Latin words could do magic all of Europe would have been constantly exploding. Newspapers would be covering the latest magic volcano to pop up in Southern France. World War II movies would include accidental summonings.

Also, for us romance language speakers it sounds vaguely understandable, so the weird things they use for spells sound goofy as hell. I'm not sure if that's better or worse than using fake Latin-sounding made up stuff as in Harry Potter.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Alastair Crowley? Gardener? Eta: The Catholic Church?

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Weren't both of those people English?

Do English people think the Catholic Church is magic? I know they sometimes wear dresses, but their hats are round, not pointy. Completely different thing.

And yeah, they say they are turning wafers into human flesh, but I've had the wafers and trust me, they don't taste like chicken at all.

[-] Jdreben@mastodon.world 1 points 11 months ago

@MudMan

I think this is an interesting topic

This comment from an old Reddit post seems to contain some knowledge, imo

https://reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/s/1SHtAFS093

As noted in that comment, in reading Goethe’s Faust I remember distinctly that line, ERITUS SICUT DEUS, SCIENTES BONUM ET MALUM.

Something about its oldness, religiosity and simplicity make it magical to me

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Sure. I guess what I'm saying is that perception is fundamentally anglocentric.

Obviously, by being retained as a liturgical language romance language speakers associate it as much to demonology as they do to... you know, your cousin getting married or a nerdy college student having obnoxious debates at the pub.

I'm also saying that it sounds dumb to me. Just culturally it immediately flags somebody copying their homework or resorting to things that sound fancy to them when they're not.

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