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A person can be killed instantly through many different means.

As we know it, to be killed painlessly, is to be killed instantly.

If you instantly destroy a person's entire brain then they died without pain.

Yet the most effective ways of instantly destroying someone's entire brain are considered inhumane.

If instantly killing someone by smashing their head with a massive rock, or shooting them in the brain stem is inhumane, then there is no humane way to kill someone at all.

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[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And no one would qualify those as "humane" either. So the argument still stands.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's a weird edge case that is between killing and assisted suicide, assuming there is consent.

Euthanasia without consent seems not so humane to me, but once again it is an edge case that is still hard to define.

No it doesn't.

There is a difference between shooting a invader of your house/country and capturing him and torturing to death.

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There is a difference, but if you start saying that shooting an invader is humane, you have a serious problem.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Self-defense is inhumane? Call out the invader first, please, then we can talk about whether the defender is overdoing it.

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Killing is inhumane.

Killing in self defense might be necessary, yet it does not become humane just because you want it to.

It is because of the way it is, otherwise he shoots you and rapes your children. (No exaggeration, Russians did that)

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That sounds like your average american too.

Nonetheless, if you start thinking that killing is humane because "they deserve it", I will repeat myself, you have a serious problem.

Because I'm pretty sure that this horrible rapist invader is also convinced that you deserve it, yet I don't believe you would find their behaviour humane for that reason.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

if you start thinking that killing is humane because “they deserve it”, I will repeat myself, you have a serious problem.

Fair enough. While I don't subscribe to pacifism, I do prefer that self-defense be regarded as an unfortunate necessity. Celebrating violence isn't going to help us.

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It can be a necessity and still be inhumane.

Having to do something does not make it good, and it's fine as long as people see it.

Sounds like you support Russia.

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Because I said that killing is inhumane?

Oh I forgot, Russia doesn't kill anyone, silly me /s

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