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[-] NateSwift@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

As someone who has used both as my primary operating system the main reason I ended up on Arch is the Arch User Repository (AUR).

The AUR allows you to run installation scripts for apps that aren’t supported by the official repositories and pretty much everything you could ever want is there.

The other big thing I liked is the Arch Wiki documents everything really well, and I preferred the kinds of answers I found there and on the Arch forums to the Ubuntu/Mint forums.

At the time, operating system overhead was extremely important to me and a window manager like i3 or awesome was less resource intensive than Mint’s Cinnamon Desktop Environment (DE).

All of that being said though, because Arch doesn’t ship with a DE getting started will require a configuring a lot of things using old school text based configuration files. The Mint installed on the other hand leaves you with a very capable and functional system as soon as you finish installing it.

If you want something that works right out of the box, I would recommend Mint. If you want a project give Arch a shot!

[-] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Yep you nailed it. The AUR with yay allows you to turn GitHub into your system’s package manager basically. Definitely not recommended for most users, but if you’re cautious and know what you’re doing, it’s an amazing addition to your toolkit.

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly the reason I would advise any newbie to stay away from AUR or Arch alltogether.

[-] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I actually find it to be quite a bit easier to use than Debian. I do think the Arch spookiness is way overblown. It shouldn’t be your first Linux distro, but I think it’s fine once you get bored with the Linux Mints and Ubuntus of the world.

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Do you have any arguments on why you think Arch is easier to use than Debian? Common sense tells me there is none, despite the obvious "well any package is available in AUR so I can install it easypeezy" yolo.

[-] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

It’s not just the AUR, but that’s part of it. Every time I use Debian, I’m shocked by how difficult it is to install any proprietary software. I tried to make it easy on myself by installing Flatpak, but even that didn’t seem to work on my system for some reason. I’m sure it was a fixable problem, but I just found myself fighting it more than I liked. The Arch wiki is also incredible and has been a great help when I’ve encountered similar issues over there.

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Totally agree that Archwiki is handsdown the best wiki for Linux. But Debian doesn't deserve this flak imo. It has its place and use cases. Also depending on your requirements as a user can be fine for desktop.

[-] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I love that Debian exists even if I don’t personally enjoy using it. It’s a great baseline for others to build off of and it’s rock solid reliable if that’s your top priority. I just struggle to make it work for my workflows. I’m sure plenty of people would say the same thing about Arch too. I don’t think either deserve a negative reputation.

[-] Cybersteel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Don't you have to rebuild everytime it updates though. Itll take a looong time

[-] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah there’s some applications I refuse to install just for this reason lol. Some don’t take too long, but bigger ones can take forever. You could always let it run in the background if you’re really determined.

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