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looks like rendering adblockers extensions obsolete with manifest-v3 was not enough so now they try to implement DRM into the browser giving the ability to any website to refuse traffic to you if you don't run a complaint browser ( cough...firefox )

here is an article in hacker news since i'm sure they can explain this to you better than i.

and also some github docs

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[-] frog@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

They want to go back to the days of websites requiring internet explorer... just this time with their browser. Even though getting away from that culture is most of the reason people ever switched to chrome. I will say though, just using firefox for everything you can isn't enough of a protest. If this goes the way Google (Alphabet I guess) wants it to, you bank will require you to use a browser with DRM. You will be forced to use a browser whose source code you can't verify as secure, to access your bank. And that is where the protest lines need to be drawn. If your bank does that? Send your message. Close the account. Take back your money. Now I'd personally do this for everything possible, but that would be a looooot of time spent getting very little across to companies that don't care if you visit their site. Taking money from banks though? Yeah it might be a whole process where you gotta request it, verify in person, wait a week to get the cash, and THEN close it, but so what? A couple hours of doing stuff and then a week of business as usual before a couple more hours opening a new bank account. That's more than worth doing to send a REAL message.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Why would my bank care which browser I use? Their business model isn't based on showing me ads.

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Why do banks require "safety"net on their apps now? The safest roms specifically don't have the security nightmare that is google play services, and banking apps are always the hardest to get working.

It is a symbiotic relationship. Regulators hear about the next wave of compromised online banking, add some law requiring whatever, banks are stuck having to comply and in comes google with "Hey this great webDRM/safetynet/playprotect totally complies with this", which it doesn't really but google has the capabilities to lock up any legal processes about it for years when they bring in the next thing and repeat. Banks in large part know it's bullshit but don't care, they're off the hook (They are the ones doing 2 factor by making the banking app on your phone require a confirmation in your tan app on your phone to make a transaction, they don't give a rats ass about the safety of their systems).

Banks get someone shielding them from regulations for cheap, google gets partners that can help them lock you in their proprietary system, and you get extra work on your rooted phone and can't fully remove play services.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

I notice the big American banks' apps don't care, as long as a compatible implementation of Google Play Services is available. Nor does my American bank seem to care that I do my desktop banking in Firefox on Linux. Is this an issue only in specific countries?

making the banking app on your phone require a confirmation in your tan app on your phone to make a transaction

I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about here. I don't have to give any kind of confirmation to make a transaction. What's a “tan app”?

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm using a SailfishOS (Linux) phone and on SFOS forums it's one of the biggest complaints, they can't use their bank through the Android compatibility layer because it doesn't pass SafetyNet. I'm lucky enough that my bank doesn't do this, but I had to fiddle with low level stuff for Revolut to work - they require you install the app from Play Store or the app doesn't work.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Can you take your business elsewhere, to a company that doesn't require you to compromise your security and privacy?

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

If I didn't find a solution, I would, though it would be a great pain to migrate all my money spending flows.

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