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[-] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 52 points 10 hours ago

Ooo interesting. The parallels with CFS are fascinating.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 31 points 8 hours ago

I wasn't even aware of that. chronic fatigue syndrome was actually real.

I thought I was just like side- depression.

is there anything known about CFS?

what causes it or how long it lasts or anything?

I know nothing about it except for like a comedy sketch from the 2000s at some point.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 10 points 3 hours ago

CFS is a syndrome rather than a disease because, until recently, it only presented as symptoms instead of as an identifiable problem with a person. I know that a some people who get diagnosed for CFS get later diagnoses as neurological disorders like multiple sclerosis.

It sounds like the more powerful MRI scanners are seeing inflammation in the rest of those suffering from CFS.

That would mean CFS is a lifelong degenerative condition.

[-] Neurologist@mander.xyz 13 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Hey I’m a researcher who works on ME (in the past called CFS).

ME/CFS is currently classified as a disease/biological illness according to the CDC.

ME is a disease state in itself. We don’t know much about it, but it can’t be explained by other diagnoses, as the defining factor, neuro-immune abnormalities including immune activation showing up post exertion is unique to it. You’re completely right that we don’t yet have a reliable biomarker. We have a test that differentiates from healthy controls, but it was discontinued for ethical reasons because conducting the test leads to a sometimes permanent worsening of the illness.

In the past it’s been mixed up and jumbled a lot, but the picture is getting clearer.

There have been a few case reports of degenerative forms of the illness. But in general it takes a more classical relapsing remitting pattern. Although even in less bad stages some patients are severely functionally disabled, even bedridden and tubefed. It has a really wide range of severities with the least severely affected able to work part time and walk and travel, while the most severe might not even be able to communicate.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 hour ago

It looks like the state of the art has advanced since the last time I was exposed to it. Thanks for the clarification.

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