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[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 53 points 18 hours ago

I'm sorry, but has no-one heard of https://letsencrypt.org that issues certificates via API for free?

I would not be surprised if certificates at some point will be issued for each session.

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

It's not the issuance that's the headache, it's the installation. There are more things that need valid certs than just webservers

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Certbot is basically automatic, think mines on a cronjob now.

Who actually does this shit manually?

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 hours ago

Any number of numerous appliances and hideously malformed business systems that don't have ways to automate cert changes.

Not everyone gets to work in their simple little world of standards-following lab servers.

[-] antithetical@lemmy.deedium.nl 59 points 17 hours ago

I'm sorry, but have you ever needed to manage some certificates for a legacy system or something that isn't just a simple public facing webserver?

Automation becomes complicated very quickly. And you don't want to give DNS mutation access to all those systems to renew with DNS-01.

[-] anonymous111@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago

Ahh yes the: we can't have self signed certificates for security reasons but also can't open up the environment to the web, and we dont have our own CA server, trifecta.

Solution: awkward, manual, certificate import process from a 3rd party vendor.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 15 points 14 hours ago

Even if you have an internal CA, few appliances support this kind of automation. At best, they have an API, and you get to write that automation yourself for each appliance.

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Knew a place where, for some devices, it was only available via a web interface. It was automated via WebDriver by a sysadmin that was losing his mind.

[-] farcaller@fstab.sh 15 points 16 hours ago

You can delegate to isolated nameservers with DNS-01, there's no need to have control over the primary zone: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/technical-deep-dive-securing-automation-acme-dns-challenge-validation

[-] antithetical@lemmy.deedium.nl 14 points 16 hours ago

Yes, and that is where we enter the complicated territories..

[-] farcaller@fstab.sh -1 points 14 hours ago

How complicated is it to have a CNAME? /s

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago

If you think it's just too easy but people are still discussing it, please entertain the notion that you may have oversimplified the situation in your assessment and that as assumptions become clarified you may yet soon understand a horror that apple can't quite grok.

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