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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 17 points 1 week ago

Except the tech companies are among the politicians' biggest "donors".

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Except the tech companies are among the politicians’ biggest “donors”.

Public cloud computing companies that want to host government IT workloads still have to be Fedramp compliant. Doesn't matter how much their donors pay, if they aren't Fedramp compliant they can't bid for the work.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

I dunno what "Fedramp compliant" means? Presumably Apple and Google aren't bidding for these contracts, which are the ones with the power to change the industry.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I dunno what “Fedramp compliant” means?

Its the whole point of this point in this thread. A set of standards the company has to meet to be able to do government work.

Presumably Apple and Google aren’t bidding for these contracts, which are the ones with the power to change the industry.

Google is, so is Microsoft as is Amazon which is also the point of this post. They had to meet the security and interoperability standards to get the government work. No amount of donor money allows a company to bypass Fedramp compliance for this work.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Its the whole point of this point in this thread.

Weird that the article never even mentions it's own subject...

Or that its about a problem you claim doesn't exist...

No amount of donor money allows a company to bypass Fedramp compliance for this work.

Oh, honey...

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Its the whole point of this point in this thread.

Weird that the article never even mentions it’s own subject… Or that its about a problem you claim doesn’t exist…

I don't know how to help you if you're not able to see the parent post which is quote in the article. It has this important line which we're discussing in this thread.

"Through government procurement laws, governments could require any company providing a product or service to the government to not interfere with interoperability."

I'm not going to copy/paste the entire line of posts where the conversation evolves. You're welcome to read those to catch up to the conversation.

No amount of donor money allows a company to bypass Fedramp compliance for this work.

Oh, honey…

Cool, then it should be easy for you to cite a company that got Fedramp work without being Fedramp certified. Should I wait for you to post your evidence or will you be a bit?

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

I don't know how to help you if you're not able to see the parent post which is quote in the article

I don't know how to help you if can't see that's nowhere to be found.

It has this important line which we're discussing in this thread.

That word is not there either.

The word it does have is "could", meaning does not currently.

it should be easy for you to cite a company that got Fedramp work without being Fedramp certified

Once again, no one is talking about " fedramp" but the entire article goes into detail about the subject of government requirements for contractors that don't exist. Maybe give it a look.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Once again, no one is talking about " fedramp" but the entire article goes into detail about the subject of government requirements for contractors that don’t exist. Maybe give it a look.

I'm talking about Fedramp as an example of a government compliance regime that "through government procurement laws, governments" DOES "require any company providing a product or service to the government to not interfere with interoperability.”

I'm confused how you're spending so much effort in a conversation and you're not able to connect basic concepts.

Article premise: "Wouldn't it be great if X exists?"

Me: "X does exist for a specific area, its called Fedramp."

Where is the difficulty you are encountering in understanding conversational flow?

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

Me: "X does exist for a specific area, its called Fedramp."

What you're talking about, and what myself and the author are talking about, are clearly not the same thing.

Where is the difficulty you are encountering in understanding conversational flow?

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

What you’re talking about, and what myself and the author are talking about, are clearly not the same thing.

Unless you're Doctorow, I don't think you can speak for the author, but you can certainly for yourself.

I looked at your post history and I don't see anything I'd consider trolling, but your responses her are screaming that in this thread of conversation. I'm just going to chalk this up to us SERIOUSLY not communicating with one another for some unknown reason.

There's no point in us conversing further on this. I'm making clear my point in multiple ways. You're still not getting it so lets just end this here.

I hope your other conversation with others are more communicative that this one. Have a great day!

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

I'm making clear my point in multiple ways. You're still not getting it so lets just end this here.

Back at ya

[-] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Yeah but donations can help make procurement tenders slightly in favour of donors. Or get inside scoop so they have time to be ready.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Donors would still have to meet the Fedramp compliance standards. So this supports Doctorow's point.

[-] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Not in USA FYI, but this is why tenders use lawyers.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

It's easy to think of tech as being companies that primarily produce electronics or operate information services, but that's not the case. Every company uses (and often creates) technology in various forms that benefit from standards and interoperation.

Connected devices benefit from standardized Wi-Fi. Cars benefit from standardized fuel- both in ICE (octane ratings, pumps) and electric (charging connectors, protocols). It even applies to companies that make simple molded plastic, because the molds can be created/used at many factories, including short-term contract manufacturing.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't know what any of that has to do with what I said.

Lots of things benefit from standards but corporations don't, which is why they invent their own and don't allow for interoperability.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

My point is that every company is a tech company.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

And every company is a logistics company?

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

At the end of the day, everything is sales.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

That's not what anyone is talking about and you know it. Everyone knows what "tech company" means colloquially.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Is Amazon a tech company?

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