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[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

There was semblance of socialism yes. But it wasn't a socialist government. Also is it really socialist if there are levels of people who get different levels of care, pay, and living conditions?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

you are thinking of communism, which hasnt been achieved anywhere yet

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because communism counts on the assumption that humans aren't greedy fucks who are gonna abuse the system anyway they can. A place where everyone is equal? Even the ruling class? Literally impossible

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

communism/anarchism pressuposes a system with no leaders or ruling class.

humans look greedy as fuck because most of us live in late stage capitalism. humans are actually unique in our unprecedented ability for empathy and cooperation. (and its how we lived for most of our history)

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

There was semblance of socialism yes. But it wasn't a socialist government.

What does this mean? Can you offer any explanation beyond "because I said so?"

Also is it really socialist if there are levels of people who get different levels of care, pay, and living conditions?

Yes, absolutely. What gave you the idea that Socialism is when everyone gets paid the same? Marx directly argued against that, along with Lenin.

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