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[-] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Communism is against human nature.

Along with every social construct that we make including laws and traditions. We make these rules precisely to counter the human nature in an attempt to create a better society, though not all are by intentional design. What is good for an isolated sole single individual is very different for a whole society and a prosperous society benefits individuals to have different opportunities than a lone actor. For example, a society where you aren't constantly worried about theft allows you to engage in trade more freely and thus able to trade more. The act of limiting personal freedom (nature) to steal, in turn, allowed society to have an increase in ability to trade.

What is closer to human nature is going to be more easily accepted by humans. And free market is closer to nature than communism. That is why it was invented first and what has set place first. If communism is indeed what society as a whole feels is better for society, they will constantly shift towards it. Some may argue similar to Canada or Scandinavian countries. Though I wouldn't define what they're shifting to as communism because countries like Sweden, Denmark, etc. score higher than USA in economic freedom index (free market). But, that discussion would go off course from topic of what is true communism which has no end.

Last 2 panels of the OP's memes refer more greatly to individual actions rather than societal actions. I'm sure certain individuals will help and be charitable. Though as a whole would be obviously less than communism since certain definitions of communism would be a mathematical maximum of reduction of poor due to equalization.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

(You are mixing economic systems with market systems - as if communism can't have free markets or that capitalism can't come up with a law that 99% of the profits must be shared as bonuses to all workers)

How do you know free market is closer to human nature (which isn't a thing)?

Especially when more than 99% of the time humans lived is socialist communes (ie communism).
(Not to mention most animals live in communistic systems, and none have free-markets.)

And especially when even in free markets vast majority of the people (workers) don't really participate in it directly.

Also humans with their blood thought and achieved that free market isn't a thing, that we have governments that regulate at minimum things that just cannot ever work in a free market.

Thats a bit like a mediaeval peasant saying its 'human nature' to want feudalism.

And a bit like saying revolutions and socioeconomic system changes arent in human nature.

Even the argument of human greediness isn't an argument for capitalism - the system decides what you are greedy for (capital in capitalism, land in feudalism, commune (respect) in communism, seashells in seashellsism).

In each -ism you can be greedy.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

... wELL teCHniCAllY nO mArKEt iS aCTUallY frEe

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