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[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 57 points 3 months ago

I think Asimov had some thoughts on this subject

Wild that we’re at this point now

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

Asimov's stories were mostly about how it would be a terrible idea to put kill switches on AI, because he assumed that perfectly rational machines would be better, more moral decision makers than human beings.

[-] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago

This guy didn't read the robot series.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 months ago

I mean I can see it both ways.

It kind of depends which of robot stories you focus on. If you keep reading to the zeroeth law stuff then it starts portraying certain androids as downright messianic, but a lot of his other (esp earlier) stories are about how -- basically from what amount to philosophical computer bugs -- robots are constantly suffering alignment problems which cause them to do crime.

[-] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The point of the first three books was that arbitrary rules like the three laws of robotics were pointless. There was a ton of grey area not covered by seemingly ironclad rules and robots could either logicically choose or be manipulated into breaking them. Robots, in all of the books, operate in a purely amoral manner.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

This guy apparently stopped reading the robot series before they got to The Evitable Conflict.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

All you people talking Asimov and I am thinking the Sprawl Trilogy.

In that series you could build an AGI that was smarter than any human but it took insane amounts of money and no one trusted them. By law and custom they all had an EMP gun pointed at their hard drives.

It's a dumb idea. It wouldn't work. And in the novels it didn't work.

I build say a nuclear plant. A nuclear plant is potentially very dangerous. It is definitely very expensive. I don't just build it to have it I build it to make money. If some wild haired hippy breaks in my office and demands the emergency shutdown switch I am going to kick him out. The only way the plant is going to be shut off is if there is a situation where I, the owner, agree I need to stop making money for a little while. Plus if I put an emergency shut off switch it's not going to blow up the plant. It's going to just stop it from running.

Well all this applies to these AI companies. It is going to be a political decision or a business decision to shut them down, not just some self-appointed group or person. So if it is going to be that way you don't need an EMP gun all you need to do is cut the power, figure out what went wrong, and restore power.

It's such a dumb idea I am pretty sure the author put it in because he was trying to point out how superstitious people were about these things.

this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2024
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