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submitted 1 year ago by Boinketh@lemm.ee to c/android@lemmy.world

It's my goddamn motherfucking mobile data and MY PHONE. I should be able to use it however I want. My wifi went down because the greedy, cunt-faced shitbags at Comcast stole taxpayer subsidies to enrich themselves instead of actually providing the service we're paying for. I tried to switch to a mobile hotspot and my phone refuses to open one. Everyone responsible for this shit should be ~~fed to alligators~~ locked away in a fucking gulag. We have no rights and live in a corporate plutocracy.

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[-] jormaig@programming.dev 23 points 1 year ago

How do they detect that you are using a hotspot? Isn't the phone using NAT internally? Like, with NAT they don't know whether a request comes from your phone or from the hotspot

[-] 0xd34d@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

The carrier can look at the packets TTL and assume if it's not what they expect then it must have originated from another device via the hotspot. Verizon did, or maybe still does, use this to throttle hotspot traffic but not data originating from the phone.

[-] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is correct. I pay for the unlimited plan with Verizon, but it only has 5GB of hotspot data. I use an iptables rule to increment the TTL by one, giving me unlimited data on my laptop.

T-Mobile used to work the same way when I used it back in 2016.

[-] not_again@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Very nice. Unfortunately in Windows so no iptables for me. Nice to know this is possible...may have to see if I can do this with vbox or inside WSL.

[-] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 3 points 1 year ago

Surely there is some way to configure this on Windows. I'm so unfamiliar with Windows software anymore, but I'm sure that any firewall worth it's salt would be able to increase the TTL on outbound packets.

[-] Spiritreader@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I think on windows you can set that in the network driver options irrc. Either in the nic configuration or the ip stack config. I've at least seen it while I was diagnosing network issues a few years back.

[-] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

iptables on your tethered machine or your android phone?

[-] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 3 points 1 year ago

iptables on my laptop (not tethered, but using the phone's wifi hotspot). I don't even have a jailbroken android phone anymore because my banking app stopped working on custom ROMs and fighting with it wasn't a good use of my time.

[-] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Doesn't that violate net neutrality?

[-] ki77erb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm curious about this as well.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it depends on the carrier; (ime) most of the ones in north america use some kind packet encapsulation technique to find out if you request originated from a phone and auto reject it.

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