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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Schleswig-Holstein, Germany's most northern state, is starting its switch from Microsoft Office to LibreOffice, and is planning to move from Windows to Linux on the 30,000 PCs it uses for local government functions.

Concerns over data security are also front and center in the Minister-President's statement, especially data that may make its way to other countries. Back in 2021, when the transition plans were first being drawn up, the hardware requirements for Windows 11 were also mentioned as a reason to move away from Microsoft.

Saunders noted that "the reasons for switching to Linux and LibreOffice are different today. Back when LiMux started, it was mostly seen as a way to save money. Now the focus is far more on data protection, privacy and security. Consider that the European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) recently found that the European Commission's use of Microsoft 365 breaches data protection law for EU institutions and bodies."

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[-] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 months ago

Hey, can you hear that? That's the sound of hundreds of IT support workers silently crying out at the thought of having to explain a whole new OS and new office software to some boomer.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Doubt it. Most users are point-and-droolers with no understanding nor desire to learn the base concepts behind the interfaces they're using. No IT worker has ever successfully explained a technical concept to an (l)user in the history of ever. By now we're smart enough not to try.

These people learn how to use computers at their jobs by rote, not by comprehension, and to them one word processor, spreadsheet, or browser is much the same as any other once they learn where all the buttons are that make it do what they want, and their interest in any of it stops precisely at that point and no further. There will be some grumbling about "the new system is so much worse than the old system," but that very same grumbling always happens whenever the "system" changes, regardless of whether or not the new one or the old one was actually the worse of the two.

Furthermore, these days I guarantee you the majority of the work they do is entirely within a browser via some ghastly intranet site which will not look or behave any differently on Linux vs. Windows vs. Mac vs. a Chromebook vs. a graphing calculator, etc.

[-] lescher@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

I am one of the sysadmins that will have to deal with the Fallout of this. I dont worry to much about the desktop side of things, Users can offen adapt well enough to clicking a different icon to do the same task. What worries me is moving away from Exchange and Microsoft AD, these systems include a lot of features we take for granted and will likely be missed.

[-] t0m5k1@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Some helpful links:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kerberos

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Active_Directory_integration

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Samba/Active_Directory_domain_controller

Suggest you run a small virtual lab to get your head around things.

It is doable, and there are articles out there about sysadmins running it with great success in a mixed environment.

Good luck, admin ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

[-] lens17@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago

IIRC, the plan is to switch to LO. Linux is also planned, but not in the foreseeable future. So you might have some time left ;)

[-] june@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I hired an accountant to do my taxes this year and her company had just switched to Libre Office and she, a boomer, could t figure out how to open a fucking CSV with it. She kept complaining about it just being a string of numbers and letters.

I resorted to providing her with PDFs instead.

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wait? Don't you just double click?

Unless they are opening it in text editor?!

[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

No fucking clue

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think it is fine if everything they used to do have a replacement, my wife has been using my laptop running silverblue for personal laptop, doing homework and everything, until she want to use affinity photos or forced to use docx.

That being said, docx is invented specifically sabotage of open document standard and cross compatibility, but I installed onlyoffice for her, and everything is fine now. And if she spent as much time in GIMP and dark table, she should be as happy as in affinity photo, since she doesn't use that many features anyway.

Same happened with her father in law, he was trying to do some business work, I give him the silverblue laptop, and opened only office. He can work just as normal, after I told him how to use the super key in gnome.

Most office worker, and students only uses very limited functionality of some software, if all of which has a decently intuitive replacement, I think they will be happy.

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