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NATO Proposes $100 Billion, Five-Year Fund to Aid Ukraine (www.bloomberg.com)

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[-] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -3 points 6 months ago

False equivalence. Literally Ukraine would have been better off if the west had not given them any money at all. The war would have been over and Ukraine would have more territory and more living people. And that doesnt even get into if the war was entirely preventable to start with. Ukraine is about to lose the war and all you guys want to do is give them more money so more ukrainians die.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 0 points 6 months ago

Good points, let's change Ukraine to Ireland and Russia to the British Empire and see if we still think they're good points.

.... Oh, oh god..

It seems we've BOTH made a huge mistake and inadvertently thought imperialism is good just because it had a Russian accent. How embarrassing for the both of us.

I'm glad we've both learned from this horrible accident and will no longer support imperial ambitions just because it's being done by a non-US ally.

[-] CableMonster@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

If I am not in favor of a thing do I have to actively oppose it?

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com -1 points 6 months ago

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[-] CableMonster@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Please quote my "going to the mat in support of russian imperialism" comments. Direct quotes only.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago

Here you go:

Literally Ukraine would have been better off if the west had not given them any money at all. The war would have been over and Ukraine would have more territory and more living people. And that doesnt even get into if the war was entirely preventable to start with.

If Ukraine would just surrender this would all be over. If Ukraine hadn't forced Russia to invade then none of this would have ever happened. Ukraine would benefit from becoming part of Russia by having more territory and a larger population. How else can your comment be construed?

[-] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

That is obviously not support for russian imperialism, its support in not having ukrainians dying.

And then you made a bunch of lame strawman arguments. Nice work!

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago

That is obviously not support for russian imperialism, its support in not having ukrainians dying.

If only people wouldn't resist my attempts to kill and steal from them. That's the real issue. If they just peacefully surrendered and let me have my way than they would be fine, better off than before even!

And then you made a bunch of lame strawman arguments. Nice work!

I've been kind enough to provide quotes from you and break down exactly how they support Russian fascist imperialism. Why can't you be kind enough to do the same with me?

The reason why: what you are saying is nonsense and you can't defend it, only retreat to a position of 'I want to save lives by accepting surrender'.

This is because you are a coward, afraid to publicly state your actual position because you know how bad it looks and you know you'll get your ass beat then spend the next few days sulking, trying to think of why you aren't actually a bad person with silly opinions.