83
I'm a "Rule-Follower". Am I a champ or a chump?
(lemmy.world)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2023
83 points (89.5% liked)
Asklemmy
43404 readers
1084 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
But who decides what is irrational? Seems like a common sense philosophy, maybe one most of us live by… but so do some of the reckless rule-breakers we love to hate. Because their irrational rule may be essential to our safety.
Maybe the metarule should be "assume an established rule makes sense until proven otherwise". I feel like it's hard to go wrong with that in a remotely fair society.
Yeah that’s a good rule of thumb.
You're right, so we should make rules about what is irrational. But what if the people making the rules are irrational? Or corrupt? Then we should rely on the rationality of the person to make the right call in the moment, weighing rules against rationality. But what if.. Ad infinitum.
It's one of those things, we need to rely on both, and not entirely on one or the other.
Do you have an example? I'm struggling to understand and appreciate this
Blanket rules, like:
Slow speeds around schools. Great during the day, pointless at 3am. Same with waiting for the green light. If there's a bunch of dudes coming up to the car and I'm the only one around, I'll be gapping it through the red light.
Hmm another traffic example. Motorbikes don't trigger the light sensors. Sometimes you have to run the red because otherwise you will be there until a car shows up.
I can't think of the other side where an irrational rule is also essential for safety, it's easier to think of rules that make you unsafe in certain circumstances.
People that "drive better intoxicated". No, I bet you don't, it just maybe seems that way from your (intoxicated) perspective. This is pretty common for weed and has been heard for alcohol.
If they actually did drive better that way I'd agree that they should always get bombed before they drive, and that the law is stupid.
Mask mandates would be a good one. The American political right largely deemed those to be irrational, but they had strong support among other portions of the country.