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submitted 6 months ago by 1984@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world

I didn't know reddit gave out the personal details of their users, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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[-] Kissaki@feddit.de 43 points 6 months ago

I didn’t know reddit gave out the personal details of their users, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

You make it sound like they have a choice, or do so freely and willingly.

The article is clear on that they don't freely share without assessment though:

Reddit wasn’t willing to go along with the request, at least not in full. The company objected, arguing that handing over the requested information would violate its users’ right to anonymous speech.

Recent legal activity shows that Reddit doesn’t intend to automatically comply with all user information requests.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 months ago

That is one thing Lemmy is not good at: Protecting its users legally. No admin can be expected to hire a lawyer to fight off those companies.

[-] Fisch@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

Lemmy is not storing anything for no reason tho, there's no point in that without advertising. The only data they could hand over would be public anyway.

[-] suppenloeffel@feddit.de 23 points 6 months ago

What?

Lemmy instances can log IPs and any other info they want all day long, there is nothing stopping them. In some jurisdictions they may even be required to.

[-] Fisch@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

Of course they can but what would be the point of that? It would just cost storage space.

[-] Lodra@programming.dev 12 points 6 months ago

An interesting discussion! You’re probably right about most Lemmy instances. But it’s entirely possible that some instances are running a modified version of Lemmy that collects more data. And only those admins will understand why. They could sell it as easily as any company.

You need to trust your service providers or accept what they’re doing.

[-] suppenloeffel@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago

Doesn't even have to be malice. I'm sure that most instance admins are great, competent and caring, but setting up a Lemmy instance is trivial, securing it is not.

The default configuration of a proxy could log connections, the config interface may accidentally be exposed unprotected and so on. Again, I'm not saying that most instances are inherently untrustworthy. But, depending on your instance, you are trusting one person or a small team of volunteers to stay on top of everything andyou can't expect them to drain their bank accounts in case of legal issues for you.

[-] Lodra@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

Absolutely a good perspective on the surrounding infra! I fully agree. Thanks for sharing.

[-] ___@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

CoW doesn’t mean your process won’t stop half way writing your movie file to disk if its improperly coded.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev -1 points 6 months ago

Then stop using lemmy. Or host your own instance.

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