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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Why would you install windows 12?

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Right? Even setting aside the inevitable "have you considered Linux?" chat, if you're the kind of person who refuses to install Windows 11, why would you be sure you'll install Windows 12?

We've seen nothing to suggest Windows won't just continue to get less usable, more bloated, more spyware-ridden, and just generally more anti-consumer.

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

why would you be sure you'll install Windows 12?

I'm not, my post said this isn't an issue till 12, as in, I'm not even considering 11, but I will consider 12.

That said, you can't stay on 10 forever without losing modern software support and modern drivers and security updates after EOL... So you basically HAVE to move at some point. My point was just in not touching 11. But it's unlikely that you'll be able to keep a Win 10 device running till 13 so... It's either 11 or 12 and with the way Microsofts cycles go, 12 likely will be better than 11.

If not... Well... Maybe Linux and proton will have caught up and Nvidia will actually make drivers etc etc. But not worth worrying about that yet.

[-] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Up to XP I used several dos versions, win3.1, 95, 98, 98SE, and then XP. From there I skipped one version, so 7, then 10. Worked out pretty well so far. So my next windows will hopefully also be 12, and I hope it will have a better UI than 11.

Linux is also interesting, but I like gaming without fiddling too much with my operating system, I just don't want to commit my rare spare time to that. I want install -> play.

[-] kwedd@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago

Linux is also interesting, but I like gaming without fiddling too much with my operating system, I just don't want to commit my rare spare time to that. I want install -> play.

With Proton, running Windows games from Steam has become pretty much click-and-play. If you do all your gaming through Steam, most games just work.

[-] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Sadly I do non of my gaming through steam. But someone else might find this answer useful!

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For the same reason I'm not still running 7...because you can't actually stay on one version forever. I'm going to put the whole Linux thing aside because... Yeah, that's a topic of its own and I think anyone with half a mind knows the reasons why Linux isn't everyone's first choice.

But at some point Win 10 will reach EOL and will stop receiving updates. It'll stop receiving new versions of DirectX etc. People will stop making drivers for it. Software will start requiring things in newer versions of Windows, etc. The list goes on, but inevitably you have to update.

Luckily with Windows, you can usually skip one full release, but you can't really make it past 2. Hence why I said 12. Am I crazy about the way 12 is shaping out? No. But you'd be crazy to think that you can just remain on 10 forever so I'm being realistic.

Also, Windows is well known to have a shitty even/odd cycle where every other release sucks and the alternating ones are less bad. So hopefully 12 will be the same. For example, 95 was really good, 98 was meh, XP was fantastic, ME/2000 are kind of a joke, Vista sucked, 7 was good enough, 8 was miserable, 10 was okay, 11 is awful... So if the pattern continues, 12 should be better than 11 at least.

I didn't think this actually needed an answer but... Maybe I'm getting old and am too used to Microsofts cycles. Also, my point was "this isn't a problem till 12" meaning, I'm not touching 11 so it doesn't even matter till I start considering 12. Never said I was definitively doing it.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

2000

yeah someone never used nt4 would think that. gha.

Windows 2000 pro and server 2000 were enormous steps up in QOL and functionality.

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I did in fact use them. Most consumers didnt. Not really worth going to the in and out intricacies when the majority of people brushed past 2000 and never touched pro or had a need for server.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

anyone who used NT4 and thought 2000pro was a bad drop is bonkers.

Also, I'm dubious of your experience because 2000 pro WAS window 2000. There was no 'non pro' - if you used windows 2000, every day you either saw it boot up saying windows 2000 Professional or Windows 2000 Server or Windows 2000 Advanced Server.

So you're either misremembering, or kinda full of shit. Confusing it for Windows ME perhaps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2000

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

At some point I’d think you would have left windows behind for most daily tasks. I left around 20 years ago and haven’t had a problem at all.

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, okay, so this was all just a "Omg just use Linux" type post.

Not everyone can conveniently just ditch a major OS for something with less support. Like I said before, there is a reason everyone isn't just jumping ship for Linux. People have plenty of legitimate reasons for it from work, to time commitment, to driver support, required software that doesn't support it, etc.

Good for you that you can switch and deal. Not everyone can. I'm not sure why so many Linux proponents are entirely fucking blind literally every possible reason that might keep someone off Linux and have to come fucking flying in on crusades on some fucking high horse of "Oooh, what peasants, of course everyone should just be switching to Linux!"

Fuck off with your condescending bullshit.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago
[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Same problems, different name, and some new problems thrown in on top. Moving along.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago
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