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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by wischi@programming.dev to c/memes@lemmy.ml

https://zeta.one/viral-math/

I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.

It's about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it's worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I'm probably biased because I wrote it :)

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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago

It seems Americans are taught pemdas and not bodas.

I Looked up doing factorials and n! = n(n – 1) is used interchangeably with n! = n*(n – 1)

So Americans will multiply anything first. This is why I put 6 ÷ ( n*(n – 1)) in excel to avoid confusion.

[-] kuneho@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I Looked up doing factorials and n! = n(n – 1) is used interchangeably with n! = n*(n – 1)

yeah, the way I have been taught is that either you put the multiplication sign there or not, it's the exact same, there's absolutely no difference in n(n-1) and n*(n-1). in the end, you treat it like the * sign is there and it's just matter of convenience you can leave it off.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

there’s absolutely no difference in n(n-1) and n*(n-1)

There is - the first is 1 term and the 2nd is 2 terms. Makes a difference if it's preceded by a division.

it’s just matter of convenience you can leave it off.

It's a matter of how many terms as to whether it's there or not.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

I Looked up doing factorials and n! = n(n – 1) is used interchangeably with n! = n*(n – 1)

Yeah, there's a problem with some lazy textbook authors, which I talked about here. A term is defined as ab=(axb), and yet many textbooks lazily write it as ab=axb, which is fine if that's the whole expression, but NOT fine if the expression is a/bc (a/(bxc) and a/bxc AREN'T the same thing!), and so we end up with people removing brackets prematurely and getting wrong answers. In other words, in your case, only n!=n(n – 1) and n!=(nx(n – 1)) can be used interchangeably.

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