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[-] Linechecker@monero.town 8 points 10 months ago

My realizations over the years:

Even if we make our cars less carbon-polluting by 25%, if we end up driving more, we could still end up polluting more.

Even if the western nations pollute less, developing nations will still pollute a lot more and will get us to tipping points anyway, albeit perhaps slightly slower.

Global warming effects are scary, but what's worse is global cooling and Ice Age. Once the ocean's balance is messed up by diluted salinity due to melted ice caps, who knows where this can go.

[-] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

Developing nations need electricity and primary energy growth. They need it to pull people out of poverty, and guarantee basic human needs like food, water, shelter as well as basic human desires like education, employment, and transportation. Western countries should be using their immense economic power to make renewable sources of energy the more cost-effective solution. They're not.

China is on track to hit peak oil (this year) and peak coal (next year). This is due to their EV adoption rate (~40% and growing fast) and their solar panel installation rate (this year, more than the entire sum of all US solar panels). China dominates the supply chain: they make up more than half of all battery exports and more than 80% of all solar panels exports worldwide. In less than a decade, China has drove down the cost of EVs to parity with ICE vehicles ($10000/car) and drove down the cost of solar to be less than that of traditional fossil fuels.

The West could have done the same. Instead, we kept jacking off our O&G producers and giving them billions of dollars in subsidies while solidifying the advantage of established car and solar companies rather than driving innovation from competition.

[-] rah@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago

should

Haha! You believe in morality!

[-] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

It's not even a morality problem, it's a question of growing your economy by developing emerging industries

[-] rah@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Your word "should" implies a moral judgement.

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