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Does warmer mean temperature? Color? Something else?
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this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2023
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The most surprising thing is how you and some commenters dont see how obvious and dead simple the answer is
Like, should they show you a block of ice and a fire next time?
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Am neurodivergent, didn't even occur to me they'd be talking about snow vs indoors. I thought because it is a visual test they meant color temp which for me registered as the middle left, center bottom, and maybe an argument for bottom right.
I thought the same thing. Was looking for the overall color temperature of the scene, but none really fit.
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Warm could also translate to "cozy" or overall "hue". Neither would necessarily pick the indoor photos. I don't think you need to be neurodivergent to be confused, maybe just a little more artistically minded.
Plus, there's no way to know what the indoor temperature is. There may be no heating in the houses.
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It's pretty frustrating when you need to do something relatively quickly and you get a captcha and get it "wrong" like 8 times because of this kind of bs. Especially annoying when you get captchas multiple times. It's just wasting my time, I don't have the patience for that shit.
okay that one is understandable, thank you
Thanks for reminding me of my neurodivergence, I couldn't figure it out either.
I was starting to think "ok this one looks lit and cozy, and how am I supposed to tell how well insulated these houses are?"
More surprising is how apparently some of you haven’t encountered captchas that employ nuance, and what seems like the obvious answer sometimes isn’t.
my man, its a blizzard and indoors, what part of that has any more nuance than being beaten over the head with the answer
The different snow images have different color tones, some matching that of the example image. The center image has a cool color tone, which doesn’t match. Captchas are made to defeat AI logic, so sometimes it’s not the obvious thing. It could very well possibly be selecting all images that match the color tone, something a bot may not work out. It could be just selecting indoor images. I wouldn’t know for certain until I got one of these and succeeded or failed. Personally I think it would be too easy for a bot to just ignore all images that have snow, or are mostly white, because that doesn’t resemble the example image at all.
edit: and in case it needs to be said, getting beaten over the head by anything doesn’t involve nuance. That’s the opposite of nuance.
Captchas aren't made to "defeat AI logic", the human detection happens in part outside the picture selection part. The picture selection is for training AI. In this case you are training an AI to distinguish the (potentially abstract) concept of warmth.
Semantics, whatever. In truth it’s both, if you stop long enough to actually think about it instead of parroting other replies that solely focus on AI training.
I couldn't get past "pick the smallest animal"
There was a large picture of a hummingbird, and a tiny panda. Both choices were wrong, apparently. They probably meant that I should pick the pettiest animal.
Now that’s just fucking with us.
IMO the idea here is that most users are not thinking very hard, so they are going to see the word "warmer", think "snow = cold" and leave their analysis at that. AI on the other hand is going to put more effort into interpreting the specific meaning of the request in context of the images. The primary challenge for captchas now is to defeat AI, so the captcha ideas that get through probably did so because they gave the AI trouble in testing, but did not give most users trouble.
I think that going forward, people who put thought into following specific directions accurately are going to have a lot of trouble with captchas.
I can agree with most of this. Still don’t know for certain which interpretation would be the correct one for this captcha. Thank you for acknowledging that defeating AI is one of the goals, which seems obvious since they’re meant to determine if you’re human. idk why that’s difficult for some people to accept.
There's a sample picture of a living room, then pictures of living rooms and snowy houses.
Yes, thank you for your entirely original response, and demonstrating again that many people lack depth in their thinking. Honestly it’s sad that you replied to that explanation with this.
I’m also starting to believe that some of you don’t understand what “sometimes the obvious looking answer isn’t the correct one” means.
The thing is that a captcha is made to be solvable by almost anyone.
So whatever you think the answer is, is probably one of the many correct responses.
It even clearly gives an example of a picture of a living room.
Something that's obvious to you isn't necessarily obvious to everyone.
This is an incredibly narrow view of people, and what 'obvious' is. This sentence is absolutely awful if you're ESL in any way:
Even I stumbled for a second on that sentence. What the hell does 'appear warmer' mean? Colour, hue, saturation, is there a temperature reading on them? It can snow at zero degrees, but that middle image could be -20 for all we know; it's in shadow and the only non-cool-colour in it is that orange rectangle.
I mean, to me, it's obvious that you add an apostrophe to 'don't' but you didn't. Your sentence also doesn't end with a period. Does that mean I get to call you out for missing such an 'obvious' thing, and insult you for not doing it? You know, how obvious and dead simple writing your sentence correctly would be.