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[-] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It's kinda sad that when men have problems, they're just expected to solve it themselves.

Words like "self-imposed" are just thrown around to handwave their issues away. But no one asks why the men think this way. Are women completely blameless?

How would women react if men were to say the lack of female representation in STEM is "self-imposed" and that women should just stop not applying for those jobs because of fear. It's unrealistic right?

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How would women react if men were to say the lack of female representation in STEM is “self-imposed”

To be fair, people are saying this all the time. Look up a Lemmy post about struggles of women. Ok, that was a rhetoric task because you won't find any with a significant amount of upvotes. But if you do on another platform, there will be plenty of people arguing that women should care for this themselves. Or discussing how bad it is for men, instead.

[-] I_hate_you_welcome@feddit.nl 0 points 10 months ago

Yeah, no. I haven’t heard this rhetoric since 2018.

[-] Organichedgehog@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Glad to see both sides argued here, both legitimate points. Sorry for my pointless comment.

[-] mmcintyre@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, it ain't sad at all. It's infuriating. Men aren't just having these problems. They are perpetuating them after having created them.

It's the misogyny, sure. But also the xenophobia, homophobia, racism, religious extremism, warmongering, gun humping, and whatever else makes these dudes vote for the most conservative and/or biggest asshole they can find.

The same crap makes other people, including the women in their lives, not want to be around them. And of course that government they voted in ain't going to offer any assistance as whatever calamities they've forced themselves to face alone, inevitably hit.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

They are perpetuating them after having created them.

You are victim blaming, men born this millennium have had zero part in creating them.

[-] I_hate_you_welcome@feddit.nl 0 points 10 months ago

Of course, it’s always their own fault, if it makes you able to sleep at night.

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