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[-] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

So they are literally forced labour camps? How can anyone in the US still complain about Russia? (Just as a disclaimer, this is not a defence of Russia. I think the conditions there are terrible, but the US doesn't seem far behind, if at all)

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Russia's actively committing genocide and threatens nuclear war against anyone who directly intervenes, so there's that.

I agree with you though. The U.S. is just a third world country with a nice coat of paint at this point.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

And in Russia, they toss people in prison for disagreeing with the state, so there's that.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago
[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Criticize the US all you want, but he didn't get targeted for disagreeing with the state.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

He published evidence of US war crimes and is being persecuted for it. How is that not disagreeing with the state?

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

Prison colonies in Russia are indeed worse than in USA. People die from sickness and malnutrition there who'd come there healthy. And, of course, because of beatings with broken bones etc which somehow nobody knows about until the prisoner dies.

Things like rape and unofficial hierarchy seem to exist in US prisons too, but in general seems just uncomparable.

[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

But people die due to e.g. bad ventilation, missing cooling and failing disease control in the US too.

Just have a look at how great the US prison systems have handled Covid.

The mortality in US prisons is ~40% than in the general population, and that is not counting 2020, where it was ~60% higher.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

I'm not arguing it's bad, but really still not Russian levels.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Source? Is it Hollywood movies?

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

Source is living in Russia for 27 years and talking to people, also reading stuff from various leaks etc. And obviously mass media. If you are asking about Russia.

If you are asking about USA, then my only sources are mass media and Reddit.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Fair enough, I believe you.

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