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Whoever drew this deserves eternal damnation!
Hex is fucking stupid.
How is the one that conveniently includes both types of slot not the standard for all screws? I'm sure there's an actual reason for it, but I'd prefer to remain incensed.
It probably costs like 2% more than one or the other to manufacture and a lot of choices involve penny pinching.
Fuck this. Torx, Hex, square drive are all positive engagement. Phillips is literally designed to cam out. Slotted is just the first head type to have existed because of how easy it is to make, but is far inferior to every other type.
A good square bit for my impact is a lifesaver as an electrician. Pretty much every conduit fitting set screw can take flat, Philips, or square. When you're reaching out one-handed from the top of a ladder, you really don't want to cam out all the time.
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I don't see how square/triangle worldbt be ideal. They don't look like they'd strip nearly as bad
World'bt
I believe it's *worldb't. Short for world butt.
Flatheads are awful and you know it.
Flatheads are good for a few specific applications that require the head to have flat contact with the surface but not be tall enough to be something else like a hex or torx, but needing a lot of torque. They suck for everything else.
Also handy on horrible cheap raised hex bolts when they get stripped. Dremel a slot and you're done.
Specific applications like... prying, poking, scraping, and chiseling.
Philips screws are awful. They strip if you look at them wrong. Flatheads should only be used on thumbscrews just in case you need a little extra torque from a screwdriver.
Torx and Hex are excellent.
The image feels like it should be posted in c/unpopularopinions
I feel like spanner would be the best for not having shit getting stripped. But that's just looking at this diagram; never seen them IRL.
They're mostly just used for tamper-proof screws for things like bathroom stalls so people can't take them apart as a "prank" or whatever. The screw driver bits tend to break easily, which is usually worse than the screw stripping.
I work on electronics and woodworking and Phillips are the utter worst of both of them. The thread lock in computers makes them easy to strip when unscrewing. The resistance of driving them into wood makes them guaranteed to strip when screwing. Fuck them.
The big issue I see with people driving Phillips screws is that they don't use a large enough driver size. Computer screws for example are Phillips #2 and I've never had an issue with them stripping.
I use the correct driver, I'll go through my kit to find the best fitting bit. It simply comes down to the fact they are designed to strip to avoid "catastrophic failure". Plus the fact that companies use intentionally cheap, soft screws, to make repair and service harder. Cough cough zinc screws on a $10,000 iMac (steel screws would have cost 25 cents for 10, zinc like 5 cents for 10, fucking ridiculous).
I read that the thing about them being designed to strip to prevent worse failure is just a myth. Or at least they weren't originally designed to. It said that the original patent never contained any feature for that. Wouldn't surprise me though if modern companies do use screws designed to strip to prevent disassembly/repair.
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Square is nice too but square/Phillips is a good damn lie. Because the Philips side of it doesn't work well enough so it is still just a square but with extra slots
The ones with bumps in the middle can go fuck themselves
Torx gang unite.
We had our 20 y/o deck repaired and stained last year. I was chatting with the overseer about what he was going to do and the topic of screws came up; he said he was going to use Torx, and only ever used Torx anymore - I just about cheered.
I'd been losing hope in humanity lately, but little signs of sanity like this, professionals finally getting rid of the hell-bits that are Phillips heads, lifts my heart and gives me hope.
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There's a distinct lack of love for pozidrive here. It's like Phillips but without being shit.
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You must have never used torx. It's excellent. Hex is also okay.
Really not a fan of Hex (it just cams out way too easily) but Torx is like screwdriver orgasm. Philips just feels like intentionally bad design
Philips just feels like intentionally bad design
Philips are designed the way they are so that they "cam out". Meaning if too much force is applied to the screw, the driver will intentionally pop out to avoid damaging the tool or the fastener. Its a feature, not a flaw. A Robertson (square), torx, or hex will let you apply enough force until the screw or the driver fail catastrophically.
Maximum ugga duggas!
The Robertson, being a Canadian invention, appropriately allows the "full send" method of applying force.
As an American who has only worked with Robertson once, it was the best thing ever. Just so easy to work with. Even better than torx.
Built my deck w/ squares & it was way faster than any other type of screws I've used before.
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Robertson (square) is also great, and it's as Canadian as bagged milk
Torx were basically invented because Henry Ford wanted to have exclusive use of the patent for robertsons and the Canadian didn’t want to do that.
Henry Ford was a terrible person for so many reasons, but this one really pisses me off.
Phillips are for boring fuckin normies who can't chooch
I'm American and even i can agree Robertson are the goat.
Phillips and flat suck. Not enough surface area on Phillips, resulting in stripped screws. And getting centered on flat sucks.
Robertson drive, just pop your driver in and it's self centering, lots of surface contact to drive, and lots of meat on the head to prevent stripping. Anything more than 4 edges is unnecessary.
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Torx and PZ ftw.
Also, I'd like to apologise to the future owner of my house for making several constructions using both in no particular order.
I'm a slotted screw HATER
Everything electrical uses them and it's a nightmare keeping the screwdriver aligned properly to try and take them out at a good speed
My favorite would be square drive but they always seem to make those out of recycled ham sandwiches or something
A lot of those wacky screws exist solely to keep people from randomly messing with them. You have to really go out of your way the get the right tool for the job, and that's if there even is one.
Like the one-way screws holding together bathroom stalls.
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what's wrong with philips + slot
Yeah hex or torx it is. Everything else can burn in hell
I'm seeing a lot of people here claiming that the Philips head was originally designed to cam out/strip to prevent a transfer of force sufficient to twist the head off. While I agree this does sound logically plausible, I could find no reference to such features in the original patent: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/0f/28/e3/3e3075abbb9779/US2046837.pdf 🤷♂️
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Clutch screw aka the green lantern corp screw
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