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I use a pixel and I have a hard time justifying a different phone.
Maybe things have changed but the last Samsung I had was an S7 and I didn't like it. It suffered from bloat and didn't last all that long. Battery issues and the screen started to lose sensitivity.
I've used iphones and they aren't bad, but I really dislike apple's app store and effort to control everything on my phone. Also everytime a new phone came out my old phone became next to unusable for a month.
I got a pixel 3 and loved it, now I have a pixel 6 and don't see changing my phone any time soon or going to a non-pixel phone. They last a long time, they work well with everything and the camera is excellent.
Can you explain what you mean by bloat with the s7? I have that and like my phone, just wondering why others don't.
I remember having an S6 and it come with so many apps preinstalled that you can't uninstall. There's the default Google/android apps which is fine because those are the basics. Then Samsung puts a bunch of their own apps on there that basically duplicates a bunch of these and can't be uninstalled, and then there's other bloat apps like Facebook, maybe candy crush or some shit, maybe Netflix, that all can't be uninstalled. The worst offender is Facebook because it was on almost any other phone not running stock android but supposedly had deeper privileges as a "system" app
And this is the problem, and it's absurd that google haven't been stopped from doing this by any anti-competition regulators. Samsung don't want google apps on their phones, they have to have them. Samsung make their own, and they're often better than googles and are far more integrated into the OS.
They don't have to have them. Mine doesn't.
They have to from the factory.
No. They don't.
What Samsung phones come without google apps and google play services installed?
None of them.
So you’re just contradicting yourself then, and admitting it…….
...nope
You're conflating having them with "have to have" them.
No I’m not. They have to have them because google forces them on all phones that have google play services.
You seem confused. Do you even understand what’s being discussed here?
Samsung do not sell a single phone that doesn’t have all the google bloat apps on it. You can’t remove them. You disagreed, then agreed, then disagreed within 3 posts.
No they don't.
You're the one who is confused. I've been saying the same thing the whole time: that "Google bloat" is not required. I know because I don't have it and have removed it from several devices.
You keep reiterating that none of them don't have this Google software, as if it contradicts the previous statement, but it does not.
Once again, having this software doesn't mean that they have to have this software.
This is the last time I'll be repeating myself.
They literally do. It's part of the licensing for using Google Play Services.
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-oem-licensing-345806/
If that's what you've been saying then again, you're 100% demonstrably wrong. Removing it is not the same as it not being there in the first place. Rooting a device or using ADB to remove something doesn't mean it's "not removable" in the way that people talk about it.
You are 100% wrong and making a fool of yourself. If Samsung want to release a phone with Google Play Services, which is needed to run most android apps, they have to include 20+ Google apps and make them non-removable. If you think this is wrong, you are wrong.