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[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 25 points 1 year ago

I'm one of the few who actually like the existence of Epic. Like, not necessarily Epic itself, but some serious competition is needed. I personally would've loved it if the competition was GOG, but it seems consumers don't particularly care about ownership, so we have Epic.

[-] Zeus@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i would love for steam to have some competition. i will gladly switch over to the first competitor that has

  • a big picture / controller-friendly interface
  • controller configurator that
    • is more powerful than rewasd
    • is editable in the overlay
    • has import/exportable configs (incl. with the community)
    • supports the best controller i've ever used, the steam controller
  • cross-platform client
  • cross-platform cloud saves
  • workshop/modding support
  • proper reviews system
  • community page for each game
  • etc.

and doesn't

  • buy exclusivity rights to games
    • i don't mind revenue deals for exclusivity, but buying existing games takes the biscuit
  • actively worsen existing games
    • e.g. removing the impeccable siapi support in rocket league, and making it run on the shitty epic servers so it disconnects all the time

particularly now that steam has switched over to electron, so the client runs like shit

i do sometimes use gog because i like their ideology, but they're missing quite a few from this list. any gog or itch.io games i buy, i inevitably add to steam as a non-steam game. which adds a lot of these handy features, but not all

unfortunately, until a competitor brings along something new to the table, i'm quite happy to wait and pay more for a game on steam. it just has too many features i can't give up

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 10 points 1 year ago

particularly now that steam has switched over to electron, so the client runs like shit

It uses CEF not Electron, which it has used for over 13 years. This isn't something they just added. If it's running slow for you you probably have an issue with hardware acceleration.

[-] Zeus@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It uses CEF not Electron,

fine. i was simplifying. that wasn't the main point of my comment. forgive me.

which it has used for over 13 years. This isn't something they just added.

no...?

you mean that the store has been an embedded browser? in that case yes

but the whole steam client? has always been vgui, not ~~electron~~ cef. did you even read the link you sent? just because there is reference to chromium in the commit log doesn't mean the whole thing's built in chromium, and just because a programme can render web content also doesn't mean it's built in chromium. when firefox switched from xul to html did you go "akshyually, it was always able to render html content so it hasn't switched at all"

If it's running slow for you you probably have an issue with hardware acceleration.

it's not just me who has performance issues. at one point it was everyone on linux with an nvidia gpu. which is supposedly fixed (and it's definitely better) but it's still unusably slow on both linux and windows. also, so what. "it works on my machine" isn't a great excuse to ignore the biggest gaming gpu brand, and electron is notoriously non-performant (if my pc can handle playing a video in ffx whilst playing recent 3d games, i think it should also be able to display my list of owned games without stuttering). my point was that i never had issues with vgui, and now i do.


edit: ah, i've just looked through your comment history. i don't believe anyone who's not a troll has -10 karma and no negative comments (especially with some comments with >100 points), and i also suspect vote manipulation. i should never have engaged. sorry. i won't engage any more.

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago

but the whole steam client? has always been vgui, not ~~electron~~ cef. just because there is reference to chromium in the commit log doesn't mean the whole thing's built in chromium.

The "whole client" hasn't been VGUI. Yes now every element is CEF but many, many pieces have been CEF for a very long time. "Switched over to Electron" implies it was entirely changed but it's just using more of the thing it was already using. Those are two different things.

it's not just me who has performance issues. at one point it was everyone on linux with an nvidia gpu

The issue you linked had nothing to do with Steam it was a bug with the Nvidia driver itself. Not sure what that's supposed to prove.

my point was that i never had issues with vgui, and now i do.

And my point is that is not an inherent problem with Steam, that is something specific to your configuration. If it runs fine for other people it can run fine for you. I'm on Arch with an Nvidia GPU. I have zero issues with the performance.

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