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PS5 Pro is expected late 2024, with the PS6 expected 2028. If Microsoft is to try to keep pace, as someone who doesn't have either console, it will be interesting to see if they also brand this as a mid-generation refresh or if they stick to their guns they've been touting for a while of being "beyond generations".

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[-] Ronno@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

2028 it is then.
I tried buying the PS5 when it released, and couldn’t get my hands on one for nearly a year. Then I saw the content lagging and decided not to buy the PS5. I still don’t see why I would want a PS5 today. I got a fairly decent PC, so that can carry me for another 5 years or so

[-] Cylinsier@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Obviously it varies from person to person but Sony exclusives would be the main reason most people want to be in the PlayStation ecosystem. As others have said even when those exclusives do eventually reach PC, the ports are usually lackluster at best and unplayable at worst. So why upgrade to the 5 if you have a 4? For me the difference in load times alone justified early adoption. Probably not everyone can justify the cost and hassle just for faster loading of their PS4 library, but as someone whose time is at a premium and who still tries to play a lot of games often, I have probably saved countless precious hours of time and therefore played far more of my gaming library in the same time frame just be being on the 5.

[-] Squid777@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Lackluster at best isn't really accurate, most of their ports have been more than functional and usually get performance patches. Alot of these issues are also poor optimization more than anything which means alot of issues can often be brute forced with stronger rigs so it adds value to upgrading whenever its time for that.

[-] Cylinsier@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

The issue is the consumer who is most likely to consider buying a console doesn't want to have to worry about waiting months for a port and then another several months for performance to be fixed, nor do they want to pay for a very expensive gaming PC and then regular hardware upgrades to play new games. As I was saying to someone else, Sony isn't really competing for PC gamers. They're two different markets and Sony knows this which is why they do release a lot of their games to PC eventually. But for people who want to play Sony games when they are relatively new and active, either to experience the story with others and avoid eventual spoilers, or to play in an active online community that may not last, waiting for a functional PC release isn't worth it, especially at the higher cost it brings to have a decent one compared to a console.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Cost to performance ebbs and flows with each console generation, and console generations are getting longer, or perhaps disappearing if Microsoft is to be believed. PC gaming's market share has been steadily rising for over a decade now, to the point where PC versions of some games that used to be console-only releases now outsell their console counterparts. There are a lot of reasons we could guess as to why this is, but I don't think they're wholly two different markets, and I don't think Sony thinks this either, regardless of what they said in court. They're preparing to set up their own PC storefront, probably without anything that will make people want to use it besides exclusives, even though that's failed for everyone else who tried it, but signs are pointing toward them preparing to do it.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I don't think it's so much that Sony doesn't see PC as a direct competitor, but that Microsoft is pushing them in a direction where now they feel they can't afford to cut themselves off from future markets that might be much more relevant and less niche in the future. If Microsoft didn't switch releasing Xbox exclusives when it came to PC I don't see Sony bothering with the PC market. Feels like something they were more reluctantly dragged into as the market of gamers started changing.

Also, even with the rise in PC parts due to stuff like mining the demographic had changed too where kids are growing up watching streamers, wanting to stream, so lot of people they follow using PCs. Guys like Linus are pretty big youtubers too changing the accessibility of PCs from this obscure nerdy and complicated out of reach thing into something more people are wanting to try if their interest is piqued.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Even if Microsoft wasn't bringing their games to PC for the longest time, there are other factors that would have pushed Sony in that direction. The games that they're making are immensely expensive to make, and they can't necessarily bank on console sales recouping that cost as guaranteed as they used to. And then there was also the supply shortages caused by the pandemic that prevented PS5s from being picked up by ready and willing customers.

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