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[-] troed@fedia.io 0 points 4 days ago

Well I mean murdering someone breaks the very definition of libertarianism so you can be very sure they're just using that moniker because it fits whatever they're really trying to accomplish.

the maximum freedom for each individual to follow his own ways, his own values, as long as he doesn't interfere with anybody else who's doing the same.

https://www.hoover.org/research/take-it-limits-milton-friedman-libertarianism

But you're absolutely right that a lot of people who are today clearly cheering for fascists used to call themselves libertarians.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

they’re just using that moniker because it fits whatever they’re really trying to accomplish.

That's what Libertarianism is. The same naming con also applies to the so-called Green Party. I don't know why we are so easily fooled by names of things, especially when we live in a country full of scams where people constantly try to fool you like this. You'd think we'd develop a tolerance considering it's a constant thing, but nope, we're still just as stupid and naive as we were decades ago. If anything, we've gotten more naive.

[-] Forester@yiffit.net 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Words have meanings and definitions if I call myself a pacifist who is against violence but I go around punching people in the face. Are you going to change the definition of pacifist or are you going to call me a violent non-pacifist.

If they're not following the actual principles of libertarianism then call them what they truly are. Reactionaries, conservatives, trolls, etc

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago

It becomes its own thing. Like if you hear the word "truther" out of context you wouldn't be blamed for thinking that it refers to someone who takes the truth very seriously. But in the context if a "9/11 truther" it means the opposite: someone who is completely dissociated from reality.

When a movement adopts a word as its name, it's like the word splits in two: one with the original meaning and one which refers to the group and means whatever that group stands for. Which one becomes dominant basically depends on what version the mainstream media uses more often. It's a zeitgeist thing.

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