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[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I like and admire vegans.

I probably should be vegan because I am lucky enough to have the economic privilege to support that kind of lifestyle.

But, as with many other communities centered around lifestyle topics, I would never want to participate in a vegan community. Lifestyle communities always become insular and echo-chambery, so you become a pariah if you don't properly adhere to 100% of the community consensus behaviors.

Not just vegans, but you see it happen with fitness communities, diy/home decor, a lot of hobbies, etc.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Abstaining from animal murder and torture is admirable and something I should do OTOH some internet commenters are mean about it

I wonder why they would be mean...

[-] mogoh@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

@Stovetop did not say nor implied that he/she is not vegan, because of the community.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

I probably should be vegan ... But ... I would never want to participate in a vegan community.

Seems pretty clear to me.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Then you need to go back to school for reading comprehension, because being a vegan and participating in a community about veganism are not the same thing, not even remotely close.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

and yet that seems to be the stated reason...

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Only because you're inferring a lot from a couple comments. You don't know why they aren't vegan (which could be for any number of reasons), the only thing you know, and are basing your entire assumptions on, is that they don't want to hang out in spaces full of insufferable vegans.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Only if you have poor reading comprehension.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 0 points 2 weeks ago

You can take part in something without taking part in the community about that thing, though. I play guitar a lot, but I don't frequent any guitar-based communities

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'm fully aware, but "I'm not going vegan because they're so annoying" is a pretty common excuse.

[-] DampSquid@feddit.uk 0 points 2 weeks ago

It is a common excuse. And yet you're still being really annoying.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry for not being nicer to bloodmouths. Wouldst thou please ent'rtain the notion of not enslaving sentient beings?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

But blood is tasty...

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that isn't what they said though

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

Take the L dude.

Not only is that clearly not the reason in this case, of what you say is true (and I believe it considering your behavior) that's a pretty damning indictment about your collective personalities.

Youre blaming OTHERS for leaving your cause because YOU'RE impossible to put up with. Pathetic. The literal definition of that meme where the dude puts the stick into his bike spokes and then cries about it.

If you hate non-vegans so much then stop talking to them. Simple as.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Im saying if someone stops being vegan because of what people say they dont actually hold the moral conviction that torture, rape and murder of any animal is wrong. I'm not crying about others leavinge "the cause" Im angry at the smugness and how readily people will accept any excuse in order to keep the literal orphan crushing machine going.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

You're a poison and you're surprised people didn't wanna get near you.

You're even getting mad at people who say that veganism is good and they want to work towards it.

You're pathetic.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I gave being vegan a go but stopped because I couldn't keep up with it.

Working 60-hour weeks makes it hard to meal prep, so I order out a lot, and there aren't many vegan friendly dining options in my area.

I ended up skipping a lot of family gatherings because Cantonese food isn't all that vegan friendly. The one thing I never wanted to be was "that guy" who needed a special menu when invited to social events, so I thought it was easier to just withdraw. Being very lactose intolerant as a kid did not help in that regard when friends would want to go out for ice cream or eat birthday cake and I'd always feel like "that guy".

At a particularly low point for me, when I was eating the same garden salad for dinner for 2 weeks straight, I ended up having a bit of a breakdown. My therapist said that it is admirable to be vegan, but my behavior at the time was verging on having a martyr complex, and that I should stop punishing myself to make a point.

I'm currently a pescatarian, which is the only concession I could make at present to let myself eat my family's home-cooked meals that are usually made with a fish sauce of some sort. I'd like to try going vegan again at some point when I'm in a better mental space, but it's something that some of us have to find our way into gradually.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

I don't know you and if you're being sincere about your harm reduction then that's great. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, the clothes I wear I made from human slavery, the produce from the exploitation of migrant workers. But people want to be blind to this so they can enjoy their treats in peace while there is a world of suffering around us, that's what gets me so riled up. The wilful ignorance.

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