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However I find myself being disagreed with quite often, mostly for not advocating or cheering violence, "by any means possible" change, or revolutionary tactics. It would seem that I'm not viewed as authentically holding my view unless I advocate extreme, violent, or radical action to accomplish it.

Those seem like two different things to me.

Edit: TO COMMUNISTS, ANARCHISTS, OR ANYONE ELSE CALLING FOR THE OVERTHROW OF SOCIETY

THIS OBVIOUSLY ISN'T MEANT FOR YOU.

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[-] GrappleHat@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

There's no room for centrists on the internet. I seem to only find centrists in real life, face-to-face. I guess we aren't loud but we're here.

(Now here come the downvotes....)

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Why are you a centrist? If someone tells you waterfalls flow downward, and someone else tells you waterfalls flow upward, do you synthesize them into saying waterfalls remain perfectly still?

Where does centrism come from, and is it just arbitrary?

[-] GrappleHat@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Lol!!!! No, no, no!! My centrism is not arbitrary!! I don't try to find a "middle ground" where waterfalls go both ways!!! Love the visual though!

I align with the political right on some issues, and the left with others. And in American politics I find the rhetoric & tribalism of both political parties ridiculous - so I can't identify with either.

Generally I lean left of center, but I can't go "full left" because I think the left has some blind spots. And liberals do this annoying thing where they seem to be always be falling all over themselves to prove how self-righteous & progressive they are, & they wind up alienating left-leaning people like me as a result.

[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

I align with the political right on some issues, and the left with others.

What are some examples of these issues?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Are you referring to liberals as "the left?" I think we are talking about different things here.

[-] GrappleHat@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

Perhaps so. I'm in the US where lingo goes that "Democrats" & "Liberals" are "left", " Republicans" & "Conservatives" are "right".

Not sure how that translates globally, so apologies if it's confusing...

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

That's the Overton Window, a peak into a country's local positions with respect to the median. Generally, however, leftism is associated with Socialism, ie Worker Ownership of the Means of Production, while rightism refers to Capitalism, ie individual ownership of the Means of Production.

With respect to this post, Revolutionary Leftists are entierely Socialists, whether they be Anarchists or Marxists, not Liberals.

On the global scale, you would be considered right-wing, as America in general is a far-right country.

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Democrats=liberals and they aren't "left", they are only left of conservatives, and even then, only on social issues. Dems/libs are conservatives when it comes to fiscal/economic stuff. Which is why the true left has no representation in the US when it comes to the economy, and the 2 capitalist conservative parties will never allow them to have any.

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