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[-] marmo7ade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Americans want socialism. This is spun as "communism" to distract and distort the argument.

[-] SiyahGuraag@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

And what really is the difference between Socialism and Communism?

[-] SloganLessons@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Communism entails the collective ownership and administration of all means of production and the absence of social classes, while socialism advocates for worker control over means of production within a democratic society, allowing for some individual ownership and social stratification.

[-] hamsteronvase@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

In addition, there are different levels of socialism. "Some" individual ownership turns people off. "The State owns the house I worked so hard to pay off?" You can have full private ownership of your things AND have single-payer health care, top-tier public education, reining in predatory banks, etc. We want to be Norway, not Venezuela.

[-] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Your government is directly responsible for Venezuela's instability. Your government's entire foreign policy is destabilizing different parts of the world to float the Dollar as the main currency and you the citizens benefit the most from it, this is why I cringe inwardly when Americans complain of Capitalism's adverse effects, if you enjoyed it while it was good, you must enjoy it while it gets bad.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

As a venezuelan, no. What happened and still happens here was the sole responsibility of the socialist party's government and the ultimate reason why I don't trust leftists as they don't own up their failures and just disregard them as "not true socialism"

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

The government of Venezuela isn't blameless but to think that American sanctions didn't affect the Venezuelan economy are the words of a true partisan. Your kind set up piano wire and beheaded civilians on motor bikes in Venezuela and I find that despicable.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

My kind? Thanks for the uncalled xenophobic racism.

Venezuela has been going to shit since the 2000 with Chavez.

Sanctions were stablished from 2015 and only to 7 individuals from the venezuelan government.

Keep your lies up. Maybe you will start believing them.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Lol racism card when I don't even know your ethnicity? I was talking about you being a rich asshole.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You literally jumped to call names on me and accused me of murdering people when you don't even know me. You call me rich as if that means anything, and to top it You justify yourself with ignorance. You don't knowing my ethnicity is the least of the issues here and frankly not knowing things about me is not stopping you from engaging with me in an uncivilized manner.

I find you despicable and a true rich asshole just given your behavior

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Surely enough you are a misogynistic as well.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„ I'll give you this you made me laugh. But in all seriousness, stop supporting the killing Venezuelans based on your political beliefs so you can have a lower tax rate. Please. It's just greed and that's a sin.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Are you talking about the leftist venezuelan government murdering civilians openly? If right that are the ones you insanely advocate for.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Not sure where you got that information but the right wing in Venezuela have been begging the USA to overthrow the democratically elected government in Venezuela for a couple decades now. They can't win the elections fair and square so they assassinate politicians and kill Venezuelans during riots. It's all documented on sites like Venezuelanalysis and CommonDreams. There's been a massive propaganda campaign against Venezuela since the late 1990's to try to get Venezuelans to give their resources to US corporations and their rich greedy Venezuelan opposition leaders (often who refuse to participate in elections the EU and other international bodies have called free and fair.)

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Lol shows much of what you know but calling an imaginary right wing party in Venezuela even when all of them are open socialists.

The only thing people are begging for is for the socialist venezuelan government to stop murdering civilians left and right.

Oh but I'm sure you have a justification for that too.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

I can't tell if you're being disingeneous or not so I'll probably stop engaging but I think Henrique Capriles, Guaido, the US State Department, and that crazy lady who wants the US to assassinate Maduro would disagree with your statement there is no right wing opposition in the country. Which BTW can and do participate in elections. They just pout and incite violence when they don't win.

socialist venezuelan government to stop murdering civilians left and right.>

Repeating something doesn't make it true.

I encourage you to read up on what's happening on Venezuela from multiple news sources. Try Venezuelanalysis.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

How about you try living there. As I do and the rest of my family?

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