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[-] snooggums@midwest.social 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So, this is wrong on so many levels. First of all, DST had nothing to do with farmers, it was to save energy usage in the summer as people were doing more things when the evenings were warmer.

IIRC daylight savings was created way back when electricity really didn’t exist so it allowed the farmers more daylight to harvest their crops.

DST does not increase the amount of daylight on any specific day of the year, it just shifts it later in the day so that people in 8-5 jobs can do more things after work. Farmers don't work 8-5, they work as needed so if the crops need harvesting they will get harvested based on the weather.

Now with that said there is more technology in today’s farming equipment so DST shouldn’t really exist anymore.

Nowadays farmers have lots of lights and can harvest after the sun goes down, but that has nothing to do with why DST shouldn't exist. DST shouldn't exist because it doesn't save energy due to any populated place having their lights on all night and the actual changing of time leading to negative outcomes like deaths from accidents with no benefits.

Sure, the sun will come up earlier and set later in the summer if we get rid of DST, but the only reason for the time change in the first place was the standard working hours being longer after noon than before.

[-] azertyfun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

and set earlier in the summer*

I hate it. I fucking hate it. With every fiber of my being. I spend every winter counting the days until the sun stops setting before I stop working. Our entire lives are scheduled so we are inside under neon light from 9-6, why are we trying to maximize how much of that is during daytime?

On the day that we go back to permanent ST I will turn to hard drugs to make up for the dopamine deficiency. No joke very few things in my life fill me with more dread than having to suffer early evenings for the rest of my life.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe, and hear me out, the problem is that 9 to 6 is the problem, since 2/3 of that time is after noon. Instead of changing reality to appease business, business, work hours could be changed to 8 to 4 with four before and four after which is both more light in the evening than DST and a shorter workday because people are more productive than they ever have been.

But I guess you would rather let business practices determine when noon is for everyone instead of the sun.

[-] azertyfun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

Business hours is no more or less of a social construct than DST or the 24 hour clock.

The only difference is that we have a shot at making everyone agree on a timezone shift or permanent DST, but absolutely NO SHOT at getting every business to switch to an 8-4 schedule. None. It'd be a nice sentiment. But it's not happening, and I don't care what the number says on the clock when I leave work as long as it's sunny outside.

Why is it so important that the sun reaches its zenith at noon anyway? Do you often get confused while looking at your antique sundial?

[-] snooggums@midwest.social -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

First of all, noon refers to when the sun is at the highest point in the sky so being an hour off is confusing.

Being able to look at the general position of the sun and being able to estimate time is pretty handy.

Being able to estimate the length of day because the time between sunrise and sunset being approximately the same is handy.

Not changing the time of day twice a year would be fucking fantastic.

Some places already stick with standard time all year round.

The US tried year round DST in the 70s and it was widely rejected within a year because DST during the winter is fucking awful.

Plus, most jobs don't mind people coming in and leaving early, which is a far more common shift adjustment than coming in and staying late.

Year round standard time is the real solution.

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