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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

Getting real sick of the "don't vote" anarchists. They remind me of insufferable debate-me atheists; you want to agree, but they make it hurt the whole time.

[-] xor@infosec.pub 5 points 8 months ago

the one good argument for that i've seen is: complacency
if anarchists (or x leftists) participate in a rigged democracy, they may start to feel like they're doing something, and doing enough by voting and promoting whomever... while that whom is guaranteed to fail even if they play the game and win the votes (see also: bernie sanders should've had the dnc nomination... the first time he won and the dnc directly intervened and gave it to hillary... and the second time there was collusion to manipulate the votes (buttiegeg dropped, all of his supporters went to biden, warren stayed on, and sanders would've won had she not)
but the left is always going to lose american democracy because democrats and republicans are entrenched...
so the argument goes, if they don't participate in the election, they'll demand other forms of change that will actually accomplish something...

[-] pixelscript@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

In theory, not voting is a protest strategy where you tie up a wealth of votes behind some set of issues, and thus incentivize politicians to platform those issues to court those votes.

In reality, next to none of the suits in power want anything to do with your issues, and they are tickled pink that they've managed to convince you to voluntarily self-select out of the process.

[-] xor@infosec.pub 2 points 8 months ago

yeah it breaks down when you realize voting is still powerful...

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